sTs: Here are some Islamic authorities themselves speaking for Islam. Any complaints?

Submitted by Plato (India), Sep 24, 2008 at 22:40

sTs, you wrote:

>>What do you expect them to say? they are not an authority on Islam and what it stands for

1. serge trifkovic - a serbian who is originally of Jewish descent -

2. Robert Spencer - of Jewish family

3. Bat Ye'or - an Egyption Jew who abhore Muslims

4. Abdullah Al-Araby is an enemy to Islam, not neutral personality

5. Walid Shoebat, is another terorrist, who is now loved by the west.

All above are biased and don't have authority on Islam, therefore cannot be considered to be a true representation of what Islam is. - they have depicted Islam to be a wary religion, which is untrue.

The documentary is breaching hate instead of gathering people together to a common word between us.<<

sTs, who then are the authorities on Islam? As a Muslim you must accept the authority of Bukhari, Ibn Khatir, and Ibn Ishaq. And what do these accepted authorities tell us about Islam? Read:

1)Bukhari Volume 1, Book 11, Number 626:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to c awl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses."

Your prophet is telling a Muslim to burn people along with their houses all those who had not left for namaz (prayers). How does this shahi hadith sound to you sTs? Your prophet had a nice little formula to force people into mosques, didn't he? Is it any wonder thatSaudi mutawas (religious police) chase people into mosques for prayers?

2) Volume 3, Book 48, Number 806:

Narrated Abdullah bin Umar:

Allah's Apostle and Ubai bin Kab Al-Ansari went to the garden where Ibn Saiyad used to live. When Allah's Apostle entered (the garden), he (i.e. Allah's Apostle ) started hiding himself behind the datepalms as he wanted to hear secretly the talk of Ibn Saiyad before the latter saw him. Ibn Saiyad wrapped with a soft decorated sheet was lying on his bed murmuring. Ibn Saiyad's mother saw the Prophet hiding behind the stems of the date-palms. She addressed Ibn Saiyad saying, "O Saf, this is Muhammad." Hearing that Ibn Saiyad stopped murmuring (or got cautious), the Prophet said, "If she had left him undisturbed, he would have revealed his reality.

What happened to Gabriel? Why was Mohammed the great prophet of Islam reduced to spying/eavesdropping on an unsuspecting man. Gabriel, who once informed him that the Banu Nadir were planning to assassinate him, seems to have failed him this time.

3) Muslim: Book 008, Number 3366: (also 3367 and 3368)

Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: When a woman spends the night away from the bed of her husband, the angels curse her until morning. This hadith has been narrated through the same chain of transmitters (with a slight variation):" He said: Until she comes back."

What a sorry sight it must be in heaven with millions of angels sitting and cursing women because they refused to occupy the same bed as their husbands. LOL!

The first hadith teaches hatred of people who do not go to mosques to the point of telling Muslims to burn them to death along with their houses.

The second hadith tells us that Muslims can eavesdrop of people to find out what they are really thinking. A nice example your prophet has set for Muslims.

The third one tells us that the sex life of Muslim men is so important to Allah that He has kept millions of angels to look into the bedrooms of Muslims to see what the wives are up to and curse them for hours if they are found to missing from their nuptial beds. ROTFL.

sTs, who needs Jews or ex-Jews to hold a mirror to Islam? You may have noticed that I have used two of Abu Huraira's hadiths. He was an ex-Jew. Like a modern-day Bate Yo'er could he have been a Jew who really hated Islam and left hadiths for posterity that could only harm Muslim beliefs?

Believe it or not there are some Muslims in India who think that Abu Huraira was a Trojan Horse planted by the Jews to wreck havoc on Muslims for what they did to his brethren. Reading the above two hadiths of his it is difficult not to agree.

The Life of the Prophet Muhammad vol I by Ibn kathir, Garnet Publishing, Page 425: ….Khalid (bin Walid) had only sought to render Islam and its side victorious, even though he was in error in thinking that they had been demeaning islam by saying, saba'na! saba'na! He did not realize they had accepted Islam, and so he killed a large number of them and took the rest captive. Most of the captives were killed as well. The Messenger of God (SAAS) did not take his command away but left him in charge……

This is why the Caliph Abu Bakr did not dismiss him when he killed Malik Nuwayra during the ridda wars, first executing him, then choosing for himself Malik's wife Umm Tamim. Umar b al-Khatab then advised, "Dismiss him; there's fault in his sword!" Abu Bakr replied, "I'll not sheathe a sword that God drew against the polytheists."

sTs, Khalid bin Walid's massacres were overlooked by the prophet and Abu Bakr used that as an excuse to let Khalid's sword do its job for Islam. He even overlooked his crime of killing a man and acquiring his wife possibly because he again had the holy example of the prophet's getting Safia and Rehana.

The Life of Muhammad, Ibn Ishaq, translated by Alfred Guillaume, Page 505,

"…We have made peace with them and we and they have invoked god in our agreement and we cannot deal falsely with them.' Umar jumped up and walked alongside Abu Jandal saying, ‘Be patient for they are polytheists; the blood of one of them is but the blood of a dog,'…

sTs, another lovely Islamic story from the original biographer of the Prophet tells you that Polytheists' lives are only worth that of dogs. This is on the authority of the rightly guided Caliph Umar. We see that Muslims take this comparison seriously, especially in India. You must have heard of innocent polytheistic Indians being killed by Muslim bombers almost every few months. I am sure these bombers will all rot in Allah's paradise based on the binding contract He has given in 9:111.

Regards

Plato

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