sustainability - for what reason and for whom?

Submitted by The Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Jul 15, 2008 at 03:45

Ruqaya writes:

"islam is the fastest growing religion in the world"

gee, the Buddhists say they are - is this some sort of competition? What's the prize?

"and the we are having world youth day in sydney as we speak."

Yes - that is correct , I saw tens of thousands of happy, exuberant young people from virtually every country walking down George St, Sydney a few hours ago. Happy, singing, laughing, talking about love etc. It occurred to me - why don't we see similar things in Muslim countries? Actually, I should point out - some of the people were from Jordan and Palestine. Didn't see a Saudi flag though.....

Yeah, I know about the Shia thing where they whip themselves with chains till they are bloodied, perhaps thinking Allah will find it most pleasing - but that's not what I had in mind. But so what if Catholics are having a world youth day - what has that got to do with Muslim supremacy - which is the point you are trying to make?

'there are only 1 billion catholics in the world"

Oh, now you're making me feel inadequate. Isn't Google great - a little research and I find that once again, Ruqaya is telling lies -

"According to the yearbook's newly compiled stats for the years between 2004 and 2005, the number of Catholics increasing in the world from 1,098 million to 1,115 million, a growth of 1.5 percent. However, because this growth is very similar to that of the population of the planet (1.2 percent), the percentage of Catholics in the world remained substantially unchanged"

And that's just Catholics - there's hundreds of millions more Baptists, Unitarians, Cof E, Church of Christ, Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterians , Russian Orthodox, Serbian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Maronite Christians, Lutherans etc etc

Ruqaya says " ......there are about 1.8 billion muslims in the world '

Now, now, be careful. Other Muslims here say 1.2, and 1.4 billion and you're saying 1.8 ? Which one of you is telling the truth?

In actual fact the truth is closer to 1.3 Several sources quantify populations of these faiths at 2,039 million Christians & 1,226 to 1300 million Muslims . (Most Muslims are under 25 years old )

As I've pointed out before - that means 1.3 billion Muslims - and 5 billion non-Muslims.

"in the west where money is not a issue in raising children."

It's not in Australia is it - where we generously give a $6,000 non-means tested baby bonus to all mothers. Note , that is us the mostly non-Muslim Australian taxpayer that is paying this to all - including Muslims. No wonder Kaysar Trad (of the Lebanese Muslim Friendship Society) has been promoting that we allow polygamy in Australia! (3 years ago it was Sharia, but that went down like a lead ballon..... don't know why though,.......what's wrong with people these days??? ) I wonder what it will be next year... arranged marriages to 6 year olds ... honeymoon at 9?

"in australia the average muslim woman has 6 children"

Gees, then that's $36K, not bad eh? The infidels are way too generous don't you think? But actually maybe they are a little too generous to people who don't integrate and don't want to integrate but will still cynically take whatever handout they can get. After all, they're only infidels and everything belongs to Allah, so what's Allah's is yours isn't it? What has it got to do with generations of thrift and sacrifice and time-tested social institutions derived from a non-Muslim European culture?

"with the rate of reversion to the truth"

??? What on earth are you talking about? Oh, you mean your new-found , Arabian based cult that and plagiarised the pre-exisiting beliefs of cultures it was surrounded with - and changed them to suit the desires of its initiators and a 7th century Bedouin desert culture?

"and birth rate it is very sustainable"

It's hard to understand how you've failed to at least consider the fact that the earth's resources are finite - growth has its self-imposed limits. Haven't you noticed we're paying $1.65 a litre for fuel? Why do you think that might be ? - hint: think limited supply and increasing demand.

the destruction of infrastucture is the invasion of the material west and british india. "

Well, seeing you hate what has been developed in the West - science, educational systems, non-Sharia judicial system etc and the fact that it has managed to use technology to shape the world - why don't you stop being a hypocrite, vote with your feet and leave? Iran beckons!!

"look for the truth and you will find it"

Ah, a quote from the Bible. Thankyou. Here's another......

"because many will come in my name and say, 'I am the Messiah,' and they will deceive many people." Matthew 24:5

and before you jump to conclusions - no, I'm just quotng scripture - I'm not a fundamentalist. I'll be more than fair and throw in a few Koranic quotes for you....

"Qur'an 2:190-192 "....Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is more grievous than bloodshed....Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme.""

Qur'an _{[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.}

Oh, I'm leaving out the poor Jews, how could I forget those 10 million , who are such a threat to us all, here....:

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176]
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him'".

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