sTs: Islam corrupts logic and reason - Part II

Submitted by Plato (India), Sep 23, 2008 at 21:43

sTs, you wrote:

>>Go to intenet and search for scientist converted to Islam - you will be amazed<<

You will have to help me here. I did google and could not come up with a single name of repute. Not even Dr. Maurice Bucaille who discovered all those scientific facts in the Koran. However I discovered this:

‘A study in today's edition of the prestigious science journal "Nature" reveals that members of the scientific community are "more likely than ever to reject God and immortality," discloses Britain's Daily Telegraph. ……..

The follow-up study reported in "Nature" reveals that the rate of belief is lower than eight decades ago. The latest survey involved 517 members of the National Academy of Sciences; half replied. When queried about belief in "personal god," only 7% responded in the affirmative, while 72.2% expressed "personal disbelief," and 20.8% expressed "doubt or agnosticism…..' http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/atheism1.htm

sTs, which scientists have gone against this general trend on reading the Koran?

>>> the breath while ascending the sky,….<< - Again silly - When in high mountains you try to breath, there is no oxygen, so you open your mouth for taking more air. ….<

Yes, very silly. When you open your mouth for more air, the chest expands it does not constrict. You see the silliness of Koranic science now? Just as vastness became expand so too ‘tight and constricted' becomes expand in 6:125 to meet the requirement of science?

>>The pharaoh's drowning,…<< - Dr. Maurice Bucaille a french doctor was given the task of diagosing a mummied pharoah (King)…….-<<

How did this medical Dr. come to the conclusion that the mummy was that of the same pharaoh? There are so many mummies of pharaohs lying in museums. Did he date it? And what was the date of this incident in the Bible? Your claim that Bucaille converted to Islam is no different to the Muslim claim that Neil Armstrong heard the adhan while in space and converted.

The greatest achievement of Dr. Bucaille was his pocketing Saudi money by concocting fraudulent evidence of science in the Koran.

Some material I found on the internet on the doctor:

"Criticism has been made both of Bucaille's book and in particular and Bucailleism in general.

Alleged Quranic predictions have also been called "vague descriptions of natural phenomena" employing "stretched or arbitrary" interpretations.^[11] Alleged Quranic references in particular to the expanding universe, parallel universes, and cosmic structural hierarchies have been called "blatantly wrong."^{[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Bucaille)}

Dr. Bucaille's book leaves one with the impression that he (Dr. Bucaille) is convinced that Islam is the truest religion of all on earth and the Qur'an is indeed the words of Allah. Now when a person is so much convinced in a faith we naturally expect him to be a Muslim, isn't it……. What bugs (sic) him to become a Muslim and follow the Qur'an, which he claims to be so divine and scientific? Being a man of science why does not he lend his ultimate allegiance to the scientific Qur'an? What answer the Islamists have for this enigma of Dr. Bucaille? (http://humanists.net/avijit/article/western_scientists_.htm)

>> This Dr Converted to Islam<<

The above website claims he remained a Roman Catholic. Show us your evidence that the doctor converted to Islam.

- >> The Pyramids building,…<< - Do you know how the pyramids built? I doubt - here is the verse and the reference - (Q 28:38) and the reference is (Joseph Davidovits), How the Pyramids were built<<

Read the following translations of Q28:38:

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YUSUFALI: Pharaoh said: "O Chiefs! no god do I know for you but myself: therefore, O Haman! light me a (kiln to bake bricks) out of clay, and build me a lofty palace, …….as far as I am concerned, I think (Moses) is a liar!"

YEDIP YUKSEL: Pharaoh said, "O commanders, I have not known of any god for you other than me. Therefore, O Haman, fire up the bricks and build me a platform,….. I am certain he is a liar.."

These two translations make clear that the Pharaoh was mocking Moses. These are words of the Pharaoh being quoted by Allah. So it is really the Pharaoh who is telling us about the pyramids, if at all. And all pyramids that I am aware of were made of stone and not fired bricks. There is not a passing reference to the shape of the pyramids, the Pharaoh (not Allah) is talking of a palace/platform. Nor is there any indication that they were burial chambers as one translation talks of a palace and another of a platform.

"Joseph Davidovits … was not convinced that the ancient Egyptians possessed the tools or technology to carve and haul the huge (2.5 to 15 ton) limestone blocks that made up the Great Pyramid. Davidovits suggested that the blocks were molded in place by using a form of limestone concrete. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Davidovits)."

This is a pouring process and not a firing process. The Koranic verses are talking of firing bricks.

I have noted that Muslim bloggers assume that if they give a link to some site they think supports their position is sufficient proof for their position. They fail to read and understand what they think is supporting evidence, not realising like you, sTs, that on the contrary it undermines their position.

Regards

Plato

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