Exposing ... Errors of Dhimmi

Submitted by Amin Riaz (United Kingdom), Jul 11, 2011 at 13:37

Dhimmi says:

I just wanted to make it clear that the subject is the hadhan and they are sahiran so the hadhan (the two) that are al-sahiran (the magicians in the dual) are the subject.

This is completely wrong at an ASTRONOMICAL LEVEL:

They said, "These two are nothing but magicians who want to drive you out of your land with their magic and do away with your most exemplary way.

That is the sentence even in English you can tell "they said" is the subject - i.e. the one doing the action (of speaking) and whatever is in the quote mark equates to the object of the verb - i.e. the thing being done.

Now the quote (i.e. the thing being said - the object of قالوا) is a comeplete sentence as well. A nominal sentences as opposed to the verbal sentence. If هذان these two is subject - then what is it subject of?

There are other verbs after "these two are nothing but magicians" - but this cannot be subject for them as subect follows verb in Classical Arabic.

هذان these two - is موصوف and finally becomes مبتدا subject of nominal sentences.

ALSO: -

This is what I posted.

قالوا - verb and subject ان nafiah liljins negation (of genus) particle هذان demonstrative pronoun ل exceptive particle - the negative and exceptive particles imply restriction - this is very in common classical arabic to use particles like that - heaache to translate in english - especially formaing positive sentences and meaning with double negation.

This i what he posted as an extract :

>subject ان

See here is why he has practiacally no knowledge of Arabic and resorted to lying:

In Arabic

قالوا - is a plural perfect verb of the form

In classical Arabic subject always follows the verb and cannot precede it - the subject can be visible like:

"Ali Said" - قال علي - here the subject is mentioned.

If you say He Said - this in arabic is simply قال - the subject is said to be hidden pronoun مضمر .

In the above - the quoted verse - قالوا is "they said" has no visible suject - ie the people saying. Here the suject is hidden - so it is the verb and subject together.

THEN

ان nafiah liljins negation (of genus) particle.

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See how he twisted the words to make out I had made a mistak - whilst unable to answer me.

Second - he has not much knowledge of actual Arabic grammar or grammarians. I quoted him the books (references).

He has no knowledge that there are already books that give complete syntactical analysis of the Quran. Quoted a book at him - easily found on net.

Quoted him books of Grammarians - n response other than calling it gobbelty gook. Wow!

I will tell you where he got his knowldge and why he is so stuck. From Western so-called experts in Islam - who made up the same type of bullshit up. He has only read their works - refuses to reference what he says. And that is why comes up stuck - against someone who does know his suff. Difference between primary and secondar or tertiary tier of knowledge.

As far as resorting to lies ...... that is old really old thing Dhimmi - as we have gone through thish charade repeatedly - with me always winning.

When he has no response - he just rambles!

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