It is relaly silly when non Arab Muslims debate grammar mistakes in the Qur'an

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 12, 2011 at 08:46

Our dear Amin the lost deobandi/tablighee is debating the grammar of a language that he cannot speak read or write and I call this silly

And the issue here is the word hadhan which should have been hadhayne or it sould have been in the accusative case and not the nominative case and it is a grammatical mistake in the Qur'an

Even islamic sources regard this as indeed a mistake and typical of Muslim delusions Muslims were told to write it as hadhan but vocalize it as hadhayne! I call this hypocrisy

So did you read al-Itqan by al-Suyuti and his lenghty examination of this funny mistake and did you read Ali Dashti? Let me guess you did not

And why did you delete most of my response?

Let me guess because you have no clue about what i' m saying and your islamic sources are saying about this big time mistake right?

>This is what you call pointless ramblings - Well Well Well - ... i never knew I would win so easily. If you do not know what Shrah Jami

And Shrah Jami to you to darling.

OK I will give you a chance why should I read your little Shrah (sic) Jami (sic) when I can read al-Suyuti you tell me?

For the readers: There are no Arabic words called shrah jami Pakistani/Arabic may be?

>is - you do not stnd a chance.

What does this have do with the fact that Allah made a mistake in Arabic grammar and it should be hahdayne and not his ROTFL big mistake hadhan? you tell me?

>And stop copy and paste.

Really? You see our dear Amin the lost tablighee it is he who has a claim is the one that must prove it so you prove to the readers that I did copy and paste and you know what? you either provide us with the eividence or you shut up

>Point proven -

What point? that you are debating the garmmar of a language that you cannot read speak or write?

I call this delusional and pathetic

>there IS no such a thing as error in Quran.

Hello: your islamic sources say that hadhan is a mistake and it should be hadhayne!

Oh and Allah says that the earth is flat so is the earth flat?

قالوا is verb with subject - they said -

What subject? What are you talking about?

>whatever they said is "object" of the verb. Elementary Grammar.

So? and where is the subject? Let me guess you have no clue?

... hahdan are the subject of the recension

Hint: yaktub al-katib al-kitab

ya lahwiti wa ya kharabi he is debating the grammar of a language that he cannot read speak or write

ان - is negation particle - (of genus) -

And genus to you too but what does this have to do with the fact that hadhan should have been hadhayne you tell us?

>Inna - is particle of empahsis this is not Inna - it is In - with silent nuun - a sukun.

So? what does this have to do with the fact that it should be hadhayne and not the big time mistake hadhan? you tell us?

I gave you references of the book - of Arabic gramarian -

You cannot even get the transliteration right there are no Arabic words called Shrah jami pakistani/Arabic maybe?

Oh and you can read kitab nahw wa qawa3id al-lugha al-3arabiyya? really? you can read Arabic? Why the delusions?

And how about al-Itiqan? it does not count right?

>an you do not know them and pretended to laugh them off. Again you took my words and distorted them and PLAINLY LIED.

Well I'm only quoting your islamic sources and if you do not like what i'm saying then al-Suyuti is a liar. You think that i should tell the nut cases in London that you our dear Amin is saying that al-Suyuti is a liar?

>You made them up.

Made what up? You can only blame your Islamic sources we only tell you what they say in Arabic a language that you cannot read speak or write

What does this have to do with the fact that Allah had no clue about ina wa akhawatiha you tell us?

>This is staggeringly bad stuff - wow - you changed my response to suit your own.

I changed your response where? This is very serious you either provide the evidence or else.

Just one exmple:

>nafiah liljins

ROTFL Pakistani Arabic what on earth is this? Do you mean tanfi al-jins what ever that is?and tanfi al-jins to you darling

>- I said: nafiah liljins

So? Pakistani/ Arabic right?

>You changed it to: tanfi al-jins - and of course yu changed words are non-sense.

... i'm trying to help you and your very poor transliteration so go and ask one of your Arab masters what is nafiah (sic) liljins (sic) and they will laugh at you so what on earth is it? let me guess you have no clue right?

>You do not know any Arabic either. Me - I have Masters in Arabic -

Delusions

And if you earned a Masters in Arabic you would have known that hahdan should have been hadhayne

ya kharabi wa yalahwiti

So where did you rearn your degree from? And I will google and find out if you are making things up or not

But again you are a victim of Arabian imperialism

>So let me fix your pakistani/Arabic nafi al-jins what ever that is right?

His reply was deleted: ...

Oh swearing deleted. tsk...tsk...tsk

>How funny - when you catch someone out like that - first Nur el Masih - no you.

I urge you to get a grip on reality and leave islam and be free again

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