The Greek mind and the big time karitha (disaster) and fadiha (scandal): in Hadhan lasahiran

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 23, 2011 at 08:51

3Asizina el-ustaz Amin Riad (ooops) el-deobandi wa el-tablighee eli ahluh el-hindooseyeen eli el-3arab wa al-muslimeen el-ihtalu el-hind qataloohum wa huwa 3ayish fi ingeltirra wa el-kuffar beyedfa3u lahu thaman ta'meen sihatuhu wa el-shaik bita3 el-ma3ash

For the readers: Our dear Amin wants me to "converse" In Arabic a language that he cannot read speak or write and i call this silly

Have no knowledge of simple syntactical analysis.

ROTFL syntactical analysis! For the readers deobandi/tablighees have stupid answers if they have no clue "it is the context" and what context? or "you kuffar do not know Arabic" we kuffar know Arabic and now I have a new lame excuse

Inability to reason means -

To "reason" what? I'm only telling you what kutub al-turath al-islami tell us so if you do not like what I'm saying then destory them and good riddance

you fail to understand that to prove grammar mistakes in Quran - oyu have to bring sources of Arabic beside Arabic from that era and place - then and only then you can asses the language of the Quran.

But what i'm telling your kutub al-turath al-islami is saying and even el-Azhar so did you find their book about el-mutashakekeen? let me guess you have no clue right?

For the readers: this is the most celebrated mistake in the Qur'an and there is so mush that was written about it in kutub al-turath al-islami and what I did in pervious posts is

1. I explained the meaning of the sentence

2. The grammar of the sentence and that in is not a subject or maf3ul (remember your bogus calim that in is a subject) and that in Arabic garmmar hadhan is called a mubtada' and lasahiran is al-khabar

I'm only telling you what we are told in the Islamic sources

3. I explained the grammatical rule which would be the grammar of the sentence and it is called in wa akhawatha or in tarfa3 al-mubtada' wa tansub al-khabar

4. This means that the word hadhan should be hadhyane and this is where the mistake is and it emans that the author of this aya had no clue about the difference between the nominative and the accusative cases and I'm only the messenger

5. In response to this very clear mistake Muslims that know their Arabic which our dear Amin does not had to come up with ways to explain this mistake and they call them tabreerat al-khata' and you will find them in el-Azhar new el-Mushakekeen and they are for the Nth time

- Jazm in in 3alayha sukun yubatilu 3amaliha

Or in that has a sukun or no short vowel becomes ineffective which is a bogus claim as you will not find sibawayhe saying that in with sukun yubatilu 3amaliha or did he lie to us? and more damaging is the fact that adding a sukun is EDITING of the Quranic text by the ulama and the rasm which is supposed to be the words of Allah has no short vowels which means that by default it is all in sukun which means that there really is no in wa akhawatiha which is not true. Did you get this one?

- al-alif fi hadhan men jawhar al-kalima which means that the ltter alif in the word is the gem of the word read it as essential part of the word but the funny thing is if this is true then how come the rasm of the word has no alif and the alif is no more than editing HDHN I do not see an alif here

- Hadhihi lughat ba3d al-3Arab or this is the language of some Arabs but why would Allah use poor Arabic by some ignorant Arabs you tell us

- ma qabl al-tathniya maftuh or what is before the last nuun of the dual is an alif and do you know what this means? it means that there really is no in wa akhawatiha and that there is no nomintaive or accusative in Arabic and they are the same so is that true?

- in bima3na na3am or in means yes

yakharabi wa ya lahwi if so then why did Allah not say

na3am hahdan lasahiran

You tell us

- in al-ha (heh) mudammar or there is a missing H which means that it is really inahu so what happened to the ha or heh did a hugnry goat ate it like what happened to ayat al-rajm wa ayat rida3at al-kabeer? and what a karitha the ulama are editing Allah's Arabic

- in ta'ti bima3na ajal or in really means ajal oh Ibn Manzur lied to us and this is the most ridiculous tabreer

- in bi3a3na ma

Sobhanallah so how come Allah did not say

ma hadhan ila sahiran

You tell us

- al-alif wa al-ya fi al-qira'a sawa' which means that the letter alif in hadhan and the ya in hadhayne are one and the same. Sobhanalla and do you know what this means? they are asking you to paly pretend to read it as hadhayne and to still write it as hadhan! They are asking you to be a liar and to play let us pretend

The amazing Muslim mind

So these are the 9 explanations by your Islamic sources and by el-Azhar so do they make any sense to you?

You failed to comprehend if the particle is not harf mushabbah bil fail then -

ROTFL Pakistani Arabic you mean mushabah bi al-fi3l and what on earth is the mushabah and what is the fi3l?

there is no mistake. All you kept saying was - so what so what difference does it make. Even when I answered this - you still kept the mantra going - even though you could not reply back.

Then if you have a new tabreer write your tabreer to al-Azhar and let me help you

El-Ustaz el-Muhtaram Shiekh el-Azhar

Ismi Amin Riad wa ana 3andi tabreer jadeed li ayat in hahdan la sahiran wa inahu mushabbah bi al-fi3l wa dhalika la yaj3aluha khata'

Jazaka allahu khayran

Amin Riaz el-deobandi el-tablighee

e-mail it to el-Azhar and they will think that you are more likely than not another mossad agent trying to undermine Islam and oh and do not tell them that in is a maf3ul do you get it?oh and no shrah jami do you get it?

You lack ability to reason - read your own reply (http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/187478) - do you simply not understand why this is so wrong.

Then prove me wrong do you get it? but you know what? i only tell you what your islamic sources tell us IN ARABIC something that you cannot do

Refused to verify by an impartial judge. (for example : http://poemsintranslation.blogspot.com/ - an Athiest)

Hello: Anyone is invited to make comments and refute what I wrote but you know what? this is what your islamic sources are saying about this mistake

Why not ask one of your Arab masters? oh you will be exposed as clueless about the Arabic language

You have no knowledg of basic grammar elements - like subject of a verb. In the exmple of an ayat

ROTFL Paksitani Arabic it is aya and the plural is ayat and more evidence that you know no Arabic but again wannabe arabs like you have no clue about what is really a teh marbouta

you said was a mistake - you did not even know if something was a subject or not? So how can you assess whether something is mistake or not.

Which one is that? Mr ignorant you had no clue what is al-fa3il wa al-fi3l wa al-mf3ul and you called in a subject and you had no clue that in hadhan la sahiran is a jumla but what does this have to do with the fact that Allah had no clue about the difference between the accusative and the nominative cases? you tell us

No one helped you either. Oh except for green ticks :-) even then you only got no more than 3 or 4.

Oh the fragile Muslim ego

And what does this have to do with the fact that Allah made a mistake in Arabic garmmar and what a karitha?

I care less if I get any or no support

This is called being dead buried - enjoy the position. All you are trying o do with your comments and worthy speeches is for effect and praise from an audience that is on your side ONYL because they too are anti-Muslim

And you are anti-Christian and anti-Hindu and anti-Kuffar and anti-women and anti-Jewish and anti-Buddhists and anti-reason

And oh is this the islamophobia? you are no more than another victim of islam and I feel sorry for you

Let us have a deal: Stop your Christian-phobia and Hindu-phobia and Jewish- phobia and homophobia and women -phobia and kuffar -phobia and buddhist -phobia and we kuffar will stop going after islam deal?

Else anyone with a sense of fair play (a very British concept) would easily see why I win this one.

Oh I thought you told us that the west is dead or did you forget? you think that is should tell Anjum Chawdary (sp?) that you are praising the Brits and the kuffar?

This worthy speech of skepticism doesn't work one way sonny - it just that the Quran is probaly right - because anti-Muslim scholarship of over 400 yrs has not led to not even ONE answer that at least majority could agree upon. What one says other cancels - if one says Quranic language is assyrian someone else has countered it. If one says mistakes o Grammar - others counter it (yes - even J Wansbrough). End result cancelling each other out.

You see this is what the Greeks taught us to explore and always question. You? you believe that an Arabian warlord and caravan raider spoke to an Arabian deity via an angel! and you believe that Allah cannot make mistakes in Arabic garmmar because you have been told not to question and to only believe

This is why the Westren civilization is a superior civilization

Then the greek mind will ask and who really created this Allah? But this is beyond you and beyond your Allah and his rasul

Its only recently that a few Western scholars have got together to get the story straight and to launch a unified attack.

It has already been done by al-Azhar in their book al-mutashakekeen and it still is all bogus

The funny thing is you would not even know who?

So why not tsll us? Let me guess you are saying that i know something that you do not know but I relaly do not have much to say! Typical Muslim

I urge you leave islam and be free again from the arabs and their cultural hegemony

PS: could you provide me with a link to prove that you graduated from wahhabi central? Oh moi? I do not chit chat with deobandi/tablighee about me and I have no claims to make and i'm here to go after Islam and prove to anyone who read what I'm writing that islam is no more than an evil human idea and you are no more than a victim

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