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Good but also, don't forget about the last prophet, he whom Jesus spokeReader comment on item: Counting Islamists Submitted by Keith Williams (United States), Oct 30, 2008 at 18:03 Hi Lactantius, Thanks for the inspirational words and verses. Again you were on point. You have a lot of knowledge and I commend you on your research and skills. I think we are in agreement about God and the prophets of the old testaments but I believe that we are in disagreement on the nature of Jesus. I am afraid that we must agree to disagree on that matter and leave it up to God. I am sorry that when I read the Bible I don't see the trinity or that Jesus is God. We will find out for sure after the Day of Judgment as we are assured just as you have shown in the verses that you gave. This is really the biggest difference we have between Islam and Christianity or should I say some of Christianity. I think there are some Christians who believe as Muslims do about Jesus. I recommend if you have not already, to do some research on what happened to the original message of Jesus as well as his followers whom you said did not spread Jesus message as they were ordered by Jesus. You will find out that they tried to deliver that message but were Martyred by the Roman empire and other empires during their missions. Also, the people who received their message were later branded as heretics for not believing in the Dogmas and Creeds of the Church 300 years later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Apostasy http://www.shrinesf.org/apostles.htm http://www.mcleanministries.com/ICA.html Also, Jesus himself tells us the two greatest commandments himself. I don't understand how you can worship Jesus when Jesus himself says, One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" I can't find one verse where Jesus says, I am God or I am one of three in a trinity. My friend, you don't have to convert from Christianity to Islam. In Islam that is not necessary. The only thing that we Muslims are called to do is to remind you to remember to believe in the God of Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, etc... (peace be upon them all) and only him. Him alone without partners and to not say Jesus is God or Son of God or one of three in a trinity. God is One God. There is no God but God. That is why Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as a mercy to mankind to set us back on course and back on the straight way. Jesus said that there would be another prophet after him, has this prophecy been fulfilled??? Yes it has. (Matt 10:5-6)--- Jesus sent out these 12 after giving them instructions: "Don't take the road leading to other nations, and don't enter any Samaritan town. Instead, go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24) He (Jesus) replied, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." ------------ "But now I go my way to Him that sent me and none of you asketh me, 'Wither goest thou?' But because I have said these things unto you sorrow hath filled your heart. Nevertheless, I tell you the truth, for if I go not away, the [Last Prophet/Comforter] will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and approve righteousness and judgement" ----- John 16:5-8 To approve righteousness and Judgement means a new LAW would be sent through the Last Prophet. Obviously Jesus is not talking about the "Holy Spirit" being the comforter/Prophet because the Holy Spirit has already come as once as a dove and many times before that. The Holy Spirit has already come many times --- (Luke 1:15,Luke 1:41,Luke 1:67,Luke 2:25-26) and it is a divine "favor" or understanding….. not an actual person or Prophet. And I will pray to the Lord, and he shall give you another [Prophet/Comforter/Spirit of Truth], that [his example] may abide with you for ever. (John 14:16-17) As a mercy unto mankind God has promised to send down and protect a final complete message(Holy book) and code of life (human example) before sealing the Prophethood. The true message of Jesus, Moses and the Last Prophet is kept alive forever through the memorization and daily recitation of the Quran. "I have yet many things to say unto you, but you cannot bear them now. How be it when he, the Spirit of truth , is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak- ----- John 16:12-14 - This shows that the disciples were not given a full code of life nor a full message of absolute truth. Rather they were given glad tidings that a final Prophet would come who would teach them all the truth which would not only confirm what was said before but would tell of much more to come. Holy Quran 5:48 To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the truth of whatever there still remains of earlier revelations, determining what is true therein, and guarding it in safety: "And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a branch shall grow out his roots. And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge, and of the fear of the Lord."--- Isaiah 11:1-2 The Quran calls the Angel of Revelation (Angel Gabriel) the Ruhool Qudoos "Holy Spirit" who is sent down to "strengthen" the Prophets. According to Encyclopedia Biblica, we read: "Jesse is contracted from Ishmael". (Cheyene , Encyclopedia Biblica under "names") He will bring a new law and message in a new tongue(language) and the villages of Kedar will sing the praises from the mountain tops..... "Sing unto the Lord a new song , and his praise from the end of the earth…" (V.10) "another tongue" (Isaiah 28:11) Let the desert and its towns lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar inhabits; let the inhabitants of Sela sing for joy, let them shout from the tops of the mountains. 12 Let them give glory to the Lord, and declare his praise in the coastlands. --- (Isaiah 42:11). Ishmael dwelt in the wilderness of "Paran"(Gen.21:21) He beget twelve sons one of whom was named "Kedar". (Gen.25:13) peace Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. 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