sTs: When a sura or verse makes no sense call it a prophecy!

Submitted by Plato (India), Nov 6, 2008 at 20:39

sTs, you wrote regarding 111:1-5:

>>This is a gain another prophecy that God spoke of in the Quran - for those who do not believe that Muhammad is a prophet of God.<<

When you see nothing of value in the surat, you call it a prophecy. The verse says ‘burnt soon'. It is 1400 years since this prophecy, and doomsday is still awaited. Will Abu Lahab be in hell already without having to wait for judgment day like everyone? If Allah can give Muslim martyrs paradise without having to wait for judgment day I am sure for the tormentors of the Prophet He can advance their time of judgment.

The rope of twisted palm leaf fibre in hell would make no sense as it would be ashes in no time. Unless Allah with all His powers can keep her neck area cool. The boiling stuff that Allah forces down the throats of sinners tears up their intestines, if you remember.

>>Father of Flame is the name of Muhammad uncle, his name in arabic (Abu Lahab) so it is wrong to translate it to father of flame, because his name is Abu Lahab, which is arabic name<<

Without the sira and the tafsirs who would ever have known that Abu Lahab was the prophet's uncle? This book which contains all knowledge gives us no clue why Allah Himself descends to the level of cursing a lowly human and his wife. The Koran is a senseless book without the add-on scriptures invented by humans.

>>Mohammad's uncle Abu Lahab was a fierce opposer and aggressor against Muhammad and his message and his followers, he abused him, he put thornes in his way, he stoned him, he made fires in his path where ever he went, He always named him a liar.<<

If someone, even a person who you have known to be very honest came up to you today and said Allah has changed His mind as he often does in Muhammad's Koran (alcohol abolition, Muslims being ten times stronger than pagans, from telling Muhammad in Mecca to deal gently with the infidels to urging to kill or be killed after he reached Madina) and has appointed him Prophet Muhammad, Mark II, would you call him a liar? If yes, then Abu Lahab also had a right to call Muhammad a liar.

>>God in the Quran said that his wealth and all his gains will not keep him away from Hell.

This prophecy and this surah was revealed 10 years before the death of Abu Lahab. Abu Lahab could have simply shown that Muhammad and the Quran are wrong by accepting Islam and therefore there would be no need for such surah against him. but NO, he kept on against Muhammad until he met his death.<<

If Abu Lahab had become a Muslim after this sura, Muhammad would have conveniently had Allah blot out this verse, for Allah had informed him:

013.039 YUSUFALI: Allah doth blot out or confirm what He pleaseth: with Him is the Mother of the Book

>> - his death was by mystereous illness like a plague that made him rot for three days while alive. the people could not touch him to bury him, they used sticks to push him to the grave and then they hailed stones on him to cover him.<<

Just goes to show how vindictive Allah is. He tortures a dead body to satisfy His prophet. The Prophet of Allah did gloat over the dead body of another relative, Abu Jahl, and praised Allah for having his head deposited at his feet.

>>He died unbeliever and he deserved what is mentioned in the Surah. For 10 YEARS he had the opportunity to show that Muhammad and the Quran were wrong, but he did NOT and could NOT. and the surah proved Muhammad was right and Abu Lahab will go to HELL.<<

sTs, Abu Lahab had no such opportunity as Allah had already written his fate in the Mother of all books. To prove that the Koran is not wrong Allah made poor Abu Lahab go through the motions of opposing and abusing the Prophet. Can you deny the logic of what I have said, sTs????

>>and by the way you would not understand the beauty of the Quran, because your heart is full of hatred.<<

Even if in Arabic this sura sounds sweet to the ears, it is all about Allah cursing and torturing. The sura may sound beautiful to Arabs but the meaning that comes through is abhorrent to us infidels, that of a man and his wife being tortured in hell for eternity for troubling your prophet for a few years.

>>The recitation of the Quran is prescribed by doctors in Germany for their patients.<<

Really? Why do Muslim countries then train doctors in infidel medicine and build hospitals filled with inventions of unbelievers when you claim doctors of the West have themselves discovered the Koran has healing powers. Why don't you tell us what diseases Koran recitation cures. Does it even manage to reduce the common cold's duration from 5 days to 3?

Regards

Plato

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