The Quranic word Qul or (you) say

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Nov 27, 2008 at 21:16

Penelope wrote

>I think we are on the same page, but since you can read the original Koran, I would like to ask if it is true that the word "say" has been added in front of suras that make no sense.

The simple answer is: we just do not know much about how the Qur'an was collected or edited. The story of the collection of the Qur'an as provided to us by the islamic tradtion does not make any sense.

Now there is a verse in the Qur'an where the word qul or say is used in the past tense and it is qala or he said which makes you wonder that it is not Allah or even muhammad that is the author of such verse but it is someone who heard Muhammad uttering such a verse and now we have qala instead of qul. But if so one can very much say that the word qul in its present tense could also be an interpolation.

So much for the Qur'an being the words of Allah

Now if you are looking for real interpolation in the Qur'an then the locus classicus has always been Q53:32 and even if you do not know Arabic you will find that such verse is out of place

Now if you are looking for editing of the Qur'an then all the dots that you see in the text and all the lines above or below the text as well as many long vowels all these were added by the Muslims Ulama in the 3rd century of islam and so much for the unedited Qur'an

> I see it mostly in ones that talk about "I' like sura 113 -" I seek refuge in the Lord of Daybreak..." - I thought it was supposed to be God talking!

Very correct also surat al-fatiha is supposed to be the words of Muhammad as the word qul is lacking

>Thanks.

I hope I helped

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