You say it in your own words & still ...

Submitted by kman (United States), Nov 21, 2008 at 23:24

Still, you don't see it. The Old Testament is "violent" and "R rated". More so than the Quran. I will go along with that 100%. The Quran tries to sugar coat the failings of man and the resulting horrors. Yes, we have a lot of the same prophets.

Tell me, if Satan, who is a very powerful being, wanted to corrupt God's every effort, how would he do it?? "Aw, you guys aren't so bad. Hey let's just forget all those results that what-is-name alludes to as sin". God has always believed in letting us see the reality of whatever sins we care to indulge in. Hard to believe that so and so, annnd so and so said, "Aw, the heck with it. Let's just go ahead and take a chomp out of that apple!" The lesson that Satan tried to divert us from learning, and God has spent all history trying to spell out for us is - TA-DA!!! Trumpets! - God IS all knowing and all omnipotent, therefore, best results come from OBEYING - TA-DA - HIM.

We now know the difference between "good and evil". Take a gander back at history and see the results of our highly acclaimed and independent awareness. Every single "R rated" thing that Satan still tries to help us not "obsess over". Ok, buy into that whole thing and tell yourself that man didn't goof - very, very big. Pretend it didn't happen?! You want a God who lies to you and pretends you haven't suffered mammothly for your/my/our mistakes?

So, then, it's true. Islam wants to sugar coat their own history so nobody is the wiser about the past of their history - RE: Great Britain (one small example).

This isn't a pride trip on my part. I'm not trying to point out my own magnificence. I have told you that I had bought into delusion (atheism) after depending upon the "magnificance" of my own thought processes. God woke me up, not the other way around. I didn't buy into something that had the right sound to it or as the way current and fashionable thinking was going. Once He got my attention, He directed my enlightened mind to His Book. There, I found all the proofs and enlightenments I ever needed. It was a very long process where he continually showed me that I could depend on him to be "all" truth.

Many years later, I began to notice the creeping encroachment of another "religon". Massive numbers, but hollow on truth, love, and righteousness. Actions speak louder than words. I live in one of the freeist nations in all of history (past tense). Unlike what goes on in the Middle East, where, should anyone just want to give another religion "a little look" or, god forbid, choose to opt for another, I am free to investigate and then opt for the one with most value. I do not, yet, have gun to my head, but, I can very definitely see it coming. However, I have already made a free will choice. As with Christains who live where they can lose their life - terribly - at the hands of Muslims, I have made a choice that follows the God of great value - not the prentender. Again, I'm not trying to shine any spotlight on me. I have read portions of the Quran and seen freely that it is a poor distortion of God's righteous Word. It tries to copy some of the righteousness but falls far short of the reality.

Many people are afraid to see that they have made mistakes. I see the false pride of the Arab nations who fell into great wealth and won't see that their religion is a lie. That is especially true in the religious sector. It takes moral and ethical guts to man up and say, "Yow, that was a lie that I bought into. The other looks better, more rightous, etc.". That takes guts. It takes guts and whatever you want to call it - macho courage - to follow truth at the cost of pain. At one time, again, I bought into a lie. There is no substitute for truth. The real Creator and God will not let us go the convenient or popular way that seems to elude "cost".

In every Muslim country in the world, you had better buy in to Islam, or else. You can get away with toying with it now, here. Not for long. Islam has its own set of demands. When they reach domination here, everyone who thought it was a "nice" religion, is going to get a big wake-up call. That includes my sister (whom I've told you about). It is a painful reality, that I don't like to see on my part. Nevertheless, a God who IS "perfect truth" cannot allow a lie to establish permenency. It would be "nice" if we could all live in peace. Lie and peace cannot co-exist on a permanent basis. Somewhere, there will always be a cost paid for by someone - God said, you/me/us fall short, price has to be paid, I will pay it - but you have to buy in.

Some learn, whether the hard way or not, that nothing without value comes without price. Ask the American public that keeps trying to buy in to all the latest "sales" gimmicks dreamed up by American business. Somewhere someone pays - eventually, we all do.

You keep alluding to this desire for peace, let live and let live mentality. Cling to that and then re-investigate the two religions in light of how they have lived out their beliefs. The forthright delivery of the failures of men to live up to the demands of their god, is only found in the God who produced his Messiah through the legitimate seed (Isaac) of Abraham - the Christ. I won't argue whether or not you have a true desire to see peace amongst mankind. I see that. Follow it to its conclusion.

God rewards those who make hard decisions based on his priciples of love, truth, and righteousness. He continously points out all man's inability to live up to the standard. He said, ok, once you get that principle, then you have to buy into the price I paid to get you on the path to paradise.

I was raised where anyone could publish their version of history. I grew up and realized I had bought into a few exaggerations on the "Founding Fathers" of this nation. Regardless, I came to realize that they were men who built a thriving nation at great sacrifice based on Christain principles. Our nation now makes every effort to bury that, and go to the reverse "exaggeration" that none of those in the past were worth the sweat it took to bury them.

What can I say about the current solid delusional state of our country? Does it look like we are paying some kind of price? What do you suppose delivered us to this "modern day of enlightenment"? Why is everything crashing around us. Believe as long as you want that "it's all going to work out just fine for everyone". That's a repetitive lie that a lot of people have bought into. I have seen it on numerous forums where people come in and try to get along with everyone. It doesn't work.

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