Response to response to 10 Reasons why Jesus is not God

Submitted by Keith Williams (United States), Nov 26, 2008 at 03:58

Hi Positron66,

You wrote:

>>Angels do not permit man to worship them (Rev 19:10 & 22:9) as they are greater than man but they worship Yeshua on His throne in Heaven. Angels only serve and worship God.<<

In Rev 19:10 it says that we should follow the testimony and message of Jesus which is to worship God.

"And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."

Then again in Rev 22:9 the same thing is to worship God.

"Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God."

How do these two verses defend your argument that Jesus is God? It shows that Jesus message was to worship God. It does not show that Jesus message was that Jesus himself was God.

>>The 4 beasts are high-ranking angels at the throne of Holy YHWH. Yet they prostrate and worship Yeshua.
Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints.<<

Yes, the Angels bowed down to Jesus out of respect just as they were commanded to bow to Adam at the begining. This is not the same as the worship as we saw in Rev 22 and Rev 9 which explicitly said "worship God". It doesn't say to worship Jesus or to worship Adam.

"Behold! We said to the angels, "Bow down to Adam." they bowed down except Iblis He was one of the Jinns."
[Al-Qur'an 18:50]

And from the pentinence of Adam,

"13.2 When God breathed his spirit into you, you received the likeness of his image. Thereupon, Michael came and made you bow down before God. God said to Michael, ‘Behold I have made Adam in the likeness of my image.'

14.1 Then Michael summoned all the angels, and God said to them, ‘Come, bow down to god whom I made.'

14.2 Michael bowed first. He called me and said. ‘You too, bow down to Adam.'

14.3 I said, ‘Go away, Michael! I shall not bow [down] to him who is posterior to me, for I am former. Why is it proper [for me] to bow down to him?' "

From the pentinence of Adam by M.E. Stone, Texts and Concordances of the Armenian Adam Literature (Society of Biblical Literature: Early Judaism and its Literature, 12; Atlanta: Scholars Press, 1996).

Bow down does not mean worship. Bow in these verses means to show respect and to salute.

peace

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