RESPONDING TO ALL YOUR UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS:

Submitted by IamJoseph (Australia), Apr 23, 2010 at 21:50

Our dear iamjospeh is realizing that his claims are bogus

For the readers: I will let you judge our dear iam's reply

This is what you wrote our dear iamjoseph wrote. Right ?>The reason we have no Arabic writing pre-400 CEOur dear iamjoseph does not seem to know or care to admit that many Arabs lived in the Syrian desert and Mesopotamia "from time immemorial" and i inlcude here the Lakhmids and the Ghassanids and the likes of the kingdom of the Hira and how come you did not know that our dear iam?

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I have already said, I challenge anyone in this forum to prove what you are dumping here. I respond here to all the names you offered above, from WIKI - a very pro-Arab medium. Your claims are bogus, and refer to new, Christian post period references of recent vintage. Read the dates relating to all the names you put here and see:

Lakhmids

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Lakhmids (Arabic: اللخميون‎), Banu Lakhm (Arabic: بنو لخم‎), Muntherids (Arabic: المناذرة‎), were a group of Arab Christians who lived in Southern Iraq, and made al-Hirah their capital in 266. Poets described it as a Paradise on earth, an Arab Poet described the city's pleasant climate and beauty "One day in al-Hirah is better than a year of treatment". The al-Hirah ruins are located 3 kilometers south of Kufa, on the west bank of the Euphrates.

Al-Hirah

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A Persian manuscript from the 15th century describing the constructing of Al-Khornaq castle In Al-Hira,The Lakhmids capital city, miniature painting by Behzad

Al Hīra (Arabic: الحيرة) was an ancient city located south of al-Kufah in south-central Iraq. It was a significant city in pre-Islamic Arab history. Originally a military encampment, in the 5th and 6th centuries CE it became the capital of the Lakhmids.

Hīra was either Christian or strongly influenced by Christianity, and was a diocese of the East Syrian Church of the East between the 5th and 11th centuries. The Sassanian Emperor Bahram V won the throne with support of Mundhir, Lakhmid Prince of Hīra, in 420.

Ghassanids

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Ghassanids (Arabic: الغساسنة‎) (al-Ghasāsinah, also Banū Ghassān "Sons of Ghassān") were a group of South Arabian Christian tribes that emigrated in the early 3rd century from Yemen to the Hauran in southern Syria, Jordan and the Holy Land where some intermarried^{[dubious – discuss]} with Hellenized Roman settlers and Greek-speaking Early Christian communities. The term Ghassān refers to the kingdom of the Ghassanids.

The Namara inscription was carved on a large block of basalt which had
originally ... 7 Kaslul (December) of the year 223 in the Nabataean era of
Bostra (=328 C.E.).

The first inscription in a language that may be recognized as Arabic is the
inscription from al-Namara in Syria (328 c.e.) [http://www.archive.org/stream/NewEncyclopediaOfIslam/encyclopedia_of_islam_djvu.txt]

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Well let us check the first line iin epigraphy that was found in Namara and in Arabic and it is dated 328CE right mr fake?

# The Namara relic proves my case, not yours. This is the first sign of what later became Arabic. It is described as a set of words in one sentence - that is not 'writings'! It is dated around 328 CE - close to what I said was the first Arabic writings.

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For the readers: the namara epigraphy is dated 328CE and it is the tomb of an Arab king

# No Arab king at this date. Read the links provided.

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(something that our dear iam told us that there were no Arab kings) and it is written in Arabic with one Syriac word and notice that our dear iam the demagogue told us that there were really no Arabs before 400CE and when he was reminded of Herodotus and Periplus Arabs (he had no clue that is really the periplus) he told us that he meant that there were no Arabs before 500BCE and that there was no Arabic language texts before 400CE!

# I have already responded to your Herodotus claim adequately. Re: Periplus Arabs, the author is unknown [not Arab] and the date disputed - even then it does not relate to anything claimed by you :

Periplus of the Erythraean Sea

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea (Greek: Περίπλους τὴς Ἐρυθράς Θαλάσσης, Latin: Periplus Maris Erythraei) is a Greek periplus, describing navigation and trading opportunities from Roman Egyptian ports like Berenice along the coast of the Red Sea, and others along Northeast Africa and India. The text has been ascribed to different dates between the 1st and 3rd centuries AD, but a mid-1st century date is now the most commonly accepted. Although the author is unknown.

# Do you see - the above is a Greek writings, not refering to Arabs and is of recent vintage anyway. There were no Arabs in Arabia before the Greeks invaded around 300 BCE.

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>Now you either put up or you must pardon me shut up# I did put up. You must put up. Please put up any Arabic books pre-400 CE or any Arab king pre-500 BCE. Easy for those claiming TIME IMMOMORIAL - an Arafat term no less!

No this comes from a poor book by an ignorant woman whose name is Joan Peters!!

And let me repeat: you either put up or shut up

# I did put up. Joan Peters is not an ignorant woman - unlike you, she gives factual, historical refers for all her assertions. In contrast, the ignorant Arabs call the Jerusalem Temple a myth and that Jews are aliens. I have posted numerous links, and they are not limited to Joan Peters.

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