Arabs in the literary sources and the Arabic language

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 14, 2010 at 07:13

Our dear iam ...

>You are saying that ancient Egyptian arabic, which you call EA, is proof of Arabs pre-500 BCE,

Where did I say that EA is "ancient Egyptian Arabic" and what on earth is Ancient Egyptian Arabic? and what does this have to do with the fact that the literary sources tell us that there were Arabs 900BCE?

>You used the term EA [Egyptian Arabic] as evidence that Arabic existed before 400 CE

Delusions! Let me ask you again: Where did I write anything about EA being ancient Egyptian Arabic?

>and that the Arab race existed pre-500 BCE.

What does the fact that the existence of the Arabs is attested in the literay sources as early as 900BCE has to do with the question of this thread that is EA a lugha or lahja? You are clueless

>This is a total illogic and anti-history.

You are a careless reader

>You admt that the Arabs invaded Egypt 642 CE -

Admit what? It is a fact

> which means Egypt was not Arab before this date.

Sure it was not but what does this have to do with the question posed in this thread and is EA a lugha or a lahja? Surpise me with an answer

>The issue of EA cannot account for Arabic -

gobbledygook what on earth are you talking about?

>except that the Arabs, who had no writings at this time,

What time? in 642CE? Hello: we have EXTANT papyri in Arabic from 642CE that come from Egypt

Stop this nonsese and go and read a real book

>accumulated words and language from the land they invaded.

So?

>But there was no Arabic writings here till 400 CE -

Hypocrite

>which is a period of over 1,100 years: where are the Arabic books within that 1,100 year period -

Hypocrite

>as we see with the Hebrew books?

What do Hebrew books have to do with EA? Surpise me with an answer

>Where are the Arabic manuscripts, parchments, papyrus - which we see in the Hebrew, Greek, Indian and all other ancient writings?

Hello: argument from silence is a poor argument and you do not even get it

>Are you saying that Egyptian became Arabic - and this occured 1,100 years later - around 400 CE?

Never said that. You are a careless reader

>This is illogical -

What is poor and illogical is poor education

>not only are there no graduating imprints,

"graduating imprints"? tsk...tsk...tsk you need to work on your English among other things

>but the Coptic language,

Hello: Coptic is an alphabet

> which is closer to the ancient Egypt -

"closer" really? It is the language of Egypt or Egyptian

How dare you judge a language (Egyptian/Coptic) that you cannot read speak or write? Oh let me guess your delusional answer would be: How do I know that? right?

> is different from Arabic -

wa mankum nastafeed

>which says that the Egyptian and the later, recent Arabic are different.

Sobhanallah

> In fact, the only logical premise is that around 400 CE, the pre-islamic Arabs formed a new writings from an admix of various already existing and well established writings - like the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, etc.

So?

>The various evidenced tended by you have all been responded to, and are also all bogus without exception: not a single one of them contains the word Arab, shows no Arab kings, manuments, relics, cities, wars or any imprints which denotes an identifable Arab group.

Hypocrite

> Here, all that you are doing is manipilating words like Arvi and Arabian as Arab - which is impossible even if you post a bogus reference of 900 BCE - because the Hebrew predates this date, there was no 'V' alphabet in any other language but the Hebrew, and unlike the Hebrew - we see no imprints of Arab till post 500 BCE.

Hyprocrite

>The Hebrew clearly includes words which are never termed as ARAB - Arvi has no chance of any relationship with Arabic - because of the V and because Arvi is a hebrew word which is predates 900 BCE,

Go and tell them at Hebrew University this nonsesne and they will laugh at you

>meaning that it is clearly directed to references which predate the Arab race.

The "Arab race"? Shame on you

The questions you must now answer are these:>Q. Do you agree that the word ARAB [spelt correctly] - does not appear anywhere pre-500 BCE?Q. Do you agree that Egypt was not Arab before it was invaded in the 7th Centuary?Q. Do you agree that there were no Arabic books pre-400 CE?

Gobbledygook

What does this have to do with EA? surpise me with an answer

Hello: Go and tell them at Hebrew University about your little theories and they will laugh at you ...

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