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INCULCATED DENIAL IS SEEN THROUGHOUT THIS DEBATE.

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in response to reader comment: Our dear iam and the word ghalabawi

Submitted by IamJoseph (Australia), Apr 28, 2010 at 21:38

>English is my first language.

No it is not and there is nothing wrong with that but you need to work on your ideas, your syntax and your poor logic . And you are not very focused

> That most of the world says Arab and Arabian are the same does not mean this is also historically true. The Greek invaders dumped the term ARAB on gangs who started to dominate other Arabian peoples in this region by sword, conquering and stealing their lands, and forced conversion, and that is how this name stuck.The Greeks used the generic term Arabian and called everyone in Arabia as Arab. We know that Jews & Coptics predate the Arabs and are 100% Arabian peoples - but Jews and coptics can be Arabian but not Arab. Egypt was not Arab, though the Arabs rule this country by robbery and persecuting the original Coptics here.This is why no one can produce any ARABS pre-500 BCE. They corrupt words like Aramean, arvi and Arabian - but there are no imprints of Arabs, Arabic kings, cities, nations, monuments of Arabs pre-500 BCE. We find only corrupted translations of calling other Arabian peoples as ARAB. Of course, we find transit imprints of Jews, Greeks, Kurds, Coptics and pre-Islamic Druze well before 500 BCE dating back 3000 years, with transit historical imprints - but nothing of the ARABS: guess why! This is true despite that the Jews were in constant dispersal while the Arabs were not despersed.

Now you tell me what does this have to do with: "what does the word Arab mean and what does the word Arabian mean" and this is a question of language the English language that is. So how can you prove me wrong? Hint: Dictionary!! Is this asking for much?

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# Everything there relates to the Arab race being post-500 BCE, and Arabic writings emerging around 400 CE. Read again. That was the premise of the debate. You are also again wrong in assuming English is not my first language. There is nothing wrong with my comprehension, and grammar is subject to some abbreviation and liberty in PC debate texts.

You have shown no counter proof of your denials of Arab and Arabic datings, and the examples you provided are either incorrect or they prove only against your premise. There is also no acceptable reason for the lack of Arab evidence as with the Hebrew - the former was never subjected to exiles and dispersal and the later was. There should be 1000's of irrefutable proof of Arabs and Islam - there is 'NOTHING' whatsoever - why so?

The facts say that far from being an ancient race, the Arab and Islamic sector has a history of invading other peoples' ancient lands, enforcing conversions and negation of those peoples' history and rights: when Islam invaded India, it massacred over 50 Million innocent Indians, forced conversion by the sword, made women as concubines, purposefully dumped mosques on the most sacred sites of that county, and stole a third of India's land. The same is now seen across Arabia, and highlighted with the Jews and their rights - now corrupted by the use of terms such as Zionists and Muslim Pretend Palestineans.

I also say that the antisemitism of the Islamic sector is not from the Quran - this predated the Quran and was inserted into the Quran by the pre-Islamic Arabs who had a big hatred of Jews, and exploied this as REVELATION.

It is a fact that the Jews have never stolen or occupied another peoples' land in all their 4000 year history, displaying the reverse of Islamists. Of note is we see no mention of the rights of the Jews, which is their homeland and what is their history in Arabia.

MOSES WAS THE FIRST ZIONIST.

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re: Arabic vernacular [97 words]LUANNE M ASHEFeb 12, 2017 08:29236657
2The debate in Egypt now is about not just al-hijab and al-niqab but also what is really the language of Egypt [452 words]dhimmi no moreAug 29, 2010 09:20177419
1The mantra of many young people in Egypt now is: "i"m Egyptian not Arab" [195 words]dhimmi no moreJul 12, 2010 19:07175474
Arabic language threatened in it's homeland [713 words]VijayJun 16, 2010 07:24174457
Muhammedian affinity [94 words]DONVANFeb 10, 2010 10:38168755
From quran [99 words]skalMar 30, 2010 16:12168755
Blissful Political Correction [342 words]ArlindaJan 12, 2010 19:15167255
Diglossia [96 words]VijayJan 3, 2010 08:49166768
Egyptian Arabic is it a case of diglossia or it is a unique language and the ligua sacra [504 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2010 12:10166768
Egyptian Arabic [266 words]VijayJan 7, 2010 18:37166768
3More about Egyptian Arabic [1013 words]dhimmi no moreJan 9, 2010 09:07166768
EGYPT WAS NOT ARAB; ARABIC IS A NEW LANGUAGE. [150 words]IamJosephApr 6, 2010 03:17166768
Vijay: The fundamental things apply. [295 words]IamJosephApr 6, 2010 19:57166768
ALLAH DID NOT REGARD THE PHARAOHS EVIL - THE TORAH DID. [159 words]IamJosephApr 6, 2010 20:09166768
DIGLOSSIA THEME IS A FAKE HERE. [454 words]IamJosephApr 8, 2010 20:43166768
Yes the Copts are persecuted in Egypt and it is a fact [262 words]dhimmi no moreApr 9, 2010 19:07166768
Our dear Jospeh needs to take a deep breath [306 words]dhimmi no moreApr 9, 2010 19:18166768
Diglossia and our dear Jospeh [163 words]dhimmi no moreApr 9, 2010 19:29166768
NO ARAB RACE PRE-500 BCE. [571 words]IamJosephApr 10, 2010 19:51166768
THE POINT! [305 words]IamJosephApr 10, 2010 20:11166768
GOBBLEDYGOOK, NOT! [568 words]IamJosephApr 10, 2010 21:55166768
Our Dear Iam who is not very focused [909 words]dhimmi no moreApr 12, 2010 07:42166768
Point? What point? [440 words]dhimmi no moreApr 12, 2010 18:12166768
Our Dear Iam part deux [855 words]dhimmi no moreApr 12, 2010 18:45166768
Gem time and our dear Joseph [130 words]dhimmi no moreApr 12, 2010 19:07166768
Focused response to yah habibi. [1473 words]IamJosephApr 12, 2010 20:48166768
MOSES WAS THE FIRST ZIONIST. [634 words]IamJosephApr 12, 2010 21:08166768
ARAB-ISLAMIC MYTHS [544 words]IamJoseph'Apr 14, 2010 05:54166768
It is ya and not your bogus yah [1956 words]dhimmi no moreApr 14, 2010 18:04166768
RE: gobbeldygook [1619 words]IamJosephApr 15, 2010 20:13166768
And the comedy goes on and on [2049 words]dhimmi no moreApr 17, 2010 07:57166768
Ya habibi: Is EA a lugha or a lahja? [640 words]dhimmi no moreApr 17, 2010 08:14166768
The Arabs in antiquity and more references that attest to the existence of the Arabs from the 9th century BCE [406 words]dhimmi no moreApr 17, 2010 10:14166768
Four for the price of one: Arabs and their language, their kings, Syro-Arabic all in one in the namara inscription [275 words]dhimmi no moreApr 17, 2010 14:35166768
THE SAME NONSENSE REPEATED HERE. [454 words]IamJosephApr 19, 2010 01:36166768
THESE REFERENCES HAVE NO RELATION TO ARABS. [633 words]IamJosephApr 19, 2010 02:15166768
THERE IS NO READING ISSUE HERE - JUST A LACK OF PROOF. [35 words]IamJosephApr 19, 2010 02:19166768
NO ARAB RACE PRE-500 BCE. [539 words]IamJosephApr 19, 2010 02:42166768
Four for the price of one: Arabs and their language, their kings, Syro-Arabic all in one in the namara inscription part deux [620 words]dhimmi no moreApr 20, 2010 07:19166768
Ya habibi: Is EA a lugha or a lahja? part deux [119 words]dhimmi no moreApr 20, 2010 07:26166768
Cherry picking time and our dear iam and EA [959 words]dhimmi no moreApr 20, 2010 18:51166768
NO EVDENCE MEANS ITS A FICTION. [286 words]IamJosephApr 20, 2010 21:19166768
The Arabs and their language and our dear iam [78 words]dhimmi no moreApr 22, 2010 06:25166768
Four for the price of one: Arabs and their language, their kings, Syro-Arabic all in one in the namara inscription part trois [758 words]dhimmi no moreApr 22, 2010 06:41166768
NO EVIDENCES PRODUCED HERE. [1051 words]IamJosephApr 22, 2010 21:07166768
RE DISHONESTY. [158 words]IamJosephApr 22, 2010 21:17166768
MANIPULATING HSTORY. [671 words]IamJosephApr 23, 2010 00:17166768
RESPONDING TO ALL YOUR UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS: [949 words]IamJosephApr 23, 2010 21:50166768
And more ignorance [486 words]dhimmi no moreApr 24, 2010 06:24166768
Cherry picking time and our dear iam [75 words]dhimmi no moreApr 24, 2010 06:58166768
Our dear iam and some of the Quranic material pre-dates Muhammad by hundreds of years and "argument from silence" [1597 words]dhimmi no moreApr 24, 2010 09:39166768
Egypt should pay us Jews backpay for building the fa cochta Pyramids! [47 words]Benny zeeApr 25, 2010 14:30166768
ARAB & ARABIAN ARE NOT EQUAL. [217 words]IamJosephApr 25, 2010 22:09166768
TRUTHFULNESS IS GREATER THAN TRUTH. [1358 words]IamJosephApr 25, 2010 22:45166768
Our dear iam and the word ghalabawi [311 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2010 06:44166768
Our dear iam and "argument from silence" [1778 words]dhimmi no moreApr 27, 2010 07:27166768
NO PROOF BY THIS POSTER IN ANY F HIS CLAIMS. [403 words]IamJosephApr 28, 2010 05:47166768
INCULCATED DENIAL IS SEEN THROUGHOUT THIS DEBATE. [636 words]IamJosephApr 28, 2010 21:38166768
Our dear iam and more comedy [1044 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2010 06:56166768
NO PROOF ANYWHERE IN YOUR POSTS. [1005 words]IamJosephMay 1, 2010 23:31166768
Our dear iam and the Qur'an [1122 words]dhimmi no moreMay 2, 2010 09:17166768
NO CHANGES BY YOUR COMMENTS. [1661 words]IamJosephMay 3, 2010 20:24166768
At last our dear iam is discovering the Periplus but did he read it? that is a different! and he also discovered the Arabs that lived in the Syrian desert and! [1242 words]dhimmi no moreMay 4, 2010 07:12166768
It seems that at last our dear iam gets it [2214 words]dhimmi no moreMay 4, 2010 17:54166768
EGYPT WAS NOT ARAB. [339 words]IamJoseohMay 4, 2010 22:46166768
More delusions [996 words]dhimmi no moreMay 5, 2010 06:47166768
Coptic is an alpahebt and Egytpian is a langauge [62 words]dhimmi no moreMay 5, 2010 18:31166768
THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS. [2453 words]IamJosephMay 5, 2010 20:55166768
BIG FONTS - BIG DENIALS. [332 words]IamJosephMay 6, 2010 20:26166768
The language is called Egyptian or metremnkemi and the abgad is Greek with 6 more consonants [449 words]dhimmi no moreMay 7, 2010 18:26166768
NO PROOFS WHATSOEVER HERE. [1420 words]IamJosephMay 7, 2010 22:03166768
THERE IS NO FRAUD IN THE HEBREW WRITINGS. [1577 words]IamJosephMay 7, 2010 23:00166768
Egypt and its languages 101 and this is as basic as it can be [381 words]dhimmi no moreMay 8, 2010 10:36166768
DENIALS WITH NO ADMISSION OF THE FACTS. [683 words]IamJosephMay 8, 2010 22:48166768
The Arabs as people [152 words]dhimmi no moreMay 9, 2010 06:32166768
Arabs in the literary sources before 500BCE [73 words]dhimmi no moreMay 9, 2010 07:06166768
The Diglossia Desperation to hype a total forgery. [358 words]IamJosephMay 11, 2010 02:58166768
YOU ARE GRASPING AT FALSE PREMISES. [580 words]IamJosephMay 11, 2010 03:28166768
NO 'ARAB' - ONLY 'ARABIAN' [262 words]IamJosephMay 11, 2010 07:35166768
More comedy [264 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2010 06:47166768
ARAB & ARABIAN ARE NOT EQUAL. [484 words]IamJosephMay 12, 2010 22:00166768
Why we Egyptians do not speak Arabic [93 words]Ahmed EgyptianMay 24, 2010 11:22166768
The language of Egypt [203 words]dhimmi no moreMay 25, 2010 18:20166768
Dr. Pipes statements [378 words]YnnatchkahJan 3, 2010 03:00166756
5Great Topic: Egyptian Arabic is a lugha and not a lahga or even lugha 3amiyya [696 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
dhimmi no moreJan 2, 2010 09:44166717
THERE WAS NEVER AN EGYPTIAN ARABIC PRE-500 BCE. [162 words]IamJosephApr 10, 2010 22:09166717
More gems from our dear iamjoseph [203 words]dhimmi no moreApr 12, 2010 18:51166717
Our dear Iamjospeh and more comedy [383 words]dhimmi no moreApr 14, 2010 08:06166717
No Gobbledygook [135 words]IamJosephApr 15, 2010 20:20166717
Yes gobbledygook [243 words]dhimmi no moreApr 17, 2010 08:06166717
No Gobbledygook [126 words]IamJosephApr 19, 2010 02:25166717
Oh yeah real gobbledygook and ano chi is Arabic ana hay! gasp!!! [216 words]dhimmi no moreApr 20, 2010 19:05166717
NO PROOF BY THIS POSTER IN ANY F HIS CLAIMS. [147 words]IamJosephApr 20, 2010 21:27166717
Hebrew and Arabic and Syriac have much in common but nothing in common with the language of Egypt [179 words]dhimmi no moreApr 24, 2010 06:32166717
1JEWS NEVER STEAL LANDS. [458 words]IamJosephApr 24, 2010 21:20166717
AnoChi and the language of Egypt and anok pe or ang pe [767 words]dhimmi no moreApr 26, 2010 07:36166717
ARAB IS NEW; ARABIAN IS OLD. [731 words]IamJosephApr 26, 2010 23:26166717
More delusions [1282 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2010 07:38166717
DENIAL OF HISTORY. [1394 words]IamJosephApr 28, 2010 20:35166717
The Greeks invaded Arabia? Really? Hint: Egypt ain't Arabia [149 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2010 07:11166717
Our dear iam is pontificating about not just one language but several languages that he are clueless about [721 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2010 07:31166717
The 'En Avadat aka 'En Abadat's Arabic language inscription dated 88 to 150CE [451 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2010 11:56166717
our dear iam al-munafiq al-kabeer and his so called experts [617 words]dhimmi no moreMay 1, 2010 15:16166717
THERE IS NO PROOF WHEN THEY SHOULD BE 1000's OF PROOF. [1666 words]IamJoseph'May 1, 2010 21:42166717
NO PROOF CONTINUES. [507 words]IamJosephMay 1, 2010 23:49166717
This time our dear iam does not seem to realize that history is never black and white [450 words]dhimmi no moreMay 2, 2010 12:41166717
Arabic inscriptions revisited [126 words]dhimmi no moreMay 4, 2010 08:12166717
BANKRUPTCY OF PROOF IS NOW BLATANT. [824 words]IamJosephMay 4, 2010 22:35166717
YOUR OWN SOURCES PROVE YOU WRONG. [363 words]IamJosephMay 4, 2010 23:01166717
More delusions [14 words]dhimmi no moreMay 5, 2010 18:23166717
More ignorance and more comedy [80 words]dhimmi no moreMay 5, 2010 18:38166717
Arabic inscriptions revisited and our dear iam' and more comedy [984 words]dhimmi no moreMay 6, 2010 06:47166717
Books and History. [222 words]IamJosephMay 6, 2010 20:37166717
Fase connections are not proofs. [1992 words]IAMjosephMay 6, 2010 21:39166717
CLECK MATE AGAIN. [226 words]IamJosephMay 6, 2010 21:54166717
1More from our dear iam [147 words]dhimmi no moreMay 7, 2010 17:59166717
Gem time [159 words]dhimmi no moreMay 7, 2010 18:07166717
REASONINGS WITHOUT ANY MERITS. [524 words]IamJosephMay 7, 2010 21:29166717
RE, PALESTINE AND COPTICS. [263 words]IamJoseohMay 7, 2010 22:18166717
our dear iam [71 words]dhimmi no moreMay 8, 2010 07:05166717
Coptic and Egyptian [1234 words]dhimmi no moreMay 8, 2010 07:51166717
EGYPT AND PALESTINE WERE INVADED BY ARABS [210 words]IamJoseohMay 8, 2010 22:26166717
Our dear iam and baby steps [326 words]dhimmi no moreMay 9, 2010 06:50166717
Arabs in the literary sources before 500BCE part deux [122 words]dhimmi no moreMay 9, 2010 07:17166717
This time three for the price of one [182 words]dhimmi no moreMay 10, 2010 07:01166717
ALL YOUR SUBMISSIONS ARE USELESS. [416 words]IamJosehMay 11, 2010 03:16166717
ANOTHER FCTICIOUS NAME. [329 words]IamJosehMay 11, 2010 03:42166717
THE HEBREW BIBLE PROVES THE REVERSE. [520 words]IamJosephMay 11, 2010 06:43166717
And speaking of "greasy" [60 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2010 06:35166717
Let me repeat it one more time [96 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2010 06:52166717
I read this as you have no answer [238 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2010 06:55166717
Much more comedy [341 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2010 07:05166717
And speaking of the Negev [139 words]dhimmi no moreMay 12, 2010 07:20166717
LOGICAL HISTORY DISPROVES YOU. [517 words]IamJosephMay 12, 2010 21:48166717
ARAB & ARABIAN ARE NOT EQUAL. [212 words]IamJosephMay 12, 2010 22:10166717
ARAB IS NEW; ARABIAN IS OLD. [198 words]IamJosephMay 12, 2010 22:38166717
ARAB-ISLAMIC MYTHS [401 words]IamJosephMay 12, 2010 22:43166717
ALL YOUR SUBMISSIONS ARE USELESS. [304 words]IamJosephMay 12, 2010 23:17166717
The word for today is bizarre and more evidence from 'En 'Avdot [513 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2010 07:12166717
The Greeks are coming.... the Greeks are coming.... for the readers read and laugh [321 words]dhimmi no moreMay 13, 2010 07:46166717
ARAB IS NEW; ARABIAN IS OLD. [679 words]IamJosephMay 13, 2010 22:44166717
ARAB IS NEW; ARABIAN IS OLD. [891 words]IamJosephMay 13, 2010 23:12166717
Egypt was in Arabia? Really? [39 words]dhimmi no moreMay 14, 2010 06:26166717
Our dear iam has nothing to say [131 words]dhimmi no moreMay 14, 2010 06:34166717
More delusions from our dear iam part trois [277 words]dhimmi no moreMay 14, 2010 06:43166717
Arabs in the literary sources and the Arabic language [805 words]dhimmi no moreMay 14, 2010 07:13166717
Incorrect deflection. [214 words]IamJosephMay 14, 2010 22:24166717
ARAB IS NEW; ARABIAN IS OLD. [1205 words]IamJosephMay 14, 2010 23:03166717
NO ARAB RACE PRE-500 BCE. [607 words]IamJosephMay 14, 2010 23:16166717
The mother of all gems revisited [1221 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2010 07:38166717
More from 'En Avdot inscription [110 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2010 07:48166717
So when did Egypt move out of Arabia to its present location in Africa? [199 words]dhimmi no moreMay 15, 2010 11:42166717
ARAB-ISLAMIC MYTHS [437 words]IamJosephMay 16, 2010 21:25166717
ARAB-ISLAMIC MYTHS [632 words]IamJosephMay 17, 2010 20:01166717
The Islamic concept of al-jahiliyya and our dear iam and it seems that Arabic became a real language as back as 1500BCE [908 words]dhimmi no moreMay 18, 2010 07:57166717
ARAB-ISLAMIC MYTHS [1652 words]IamJosephMay 18, 2010 20:03166717
ARAB-ISLAMIC MYTHS [931 words]IamJosephMay 19, 2010 20:20166717
Reading the Qur'an [506 words]dhimmi no moreMay 22, 2010 08:37166717
More nonsense from our dear iam [435 words]dhimmi no moreMay 22, 2010 12:01166717
ARAB-ISLAMIC MYTHS [1222 words]IamJosephMay 23, 2010 22:43166717
Hebrew writings are authentic and contemporary. [100 words]IamJosephMay 23, 2010 22:51166717
The letter V in Egyptian/Coptic [50 words]dhimmi no moreMay 25, 2010 18:07166717
BOGUS PROOF OF HISTORY. [212 words]IamJosephMay 27, 2010 03:35166717
2HUMANITY HAS BEEN FOOLED BY A FALSIFIED HISTORY. [951 words]IamJosephMay 27, 2010 21:07166717
1The second letter in the Coptic alphabet is Beta also Veta [538 words]dhimmi no moreJun 1, 2010 18:41166717
ANOTHER BLUNDER EXPOSED. [384 words]IamJosephJun 2, 2010 20:28166717
LETTER 'V' WAS INTRODUCED BY THE HEBREW WRITINGS. [184 words]IamJosephJun 2, 2010 20:41166717
More drivel [220 words]dhimmi no moreJun 4, 2010 18:28166717
Our dear iam the letter V in the language of Egypt and those pesky Copts and the long version [1165 words]dhimmi no moreJun 5, 2010 15:35166717
BOGUS MANIPULATIONS ARE NOT PROOFS. [394 words]IamJosephJun 5, 2010 19:30166717
More ignorance [1568 words]dhimmi no moreJun 6, 2010 08:33166717
THERE IS NOTHING SACRED ABOUT FALSEHOODS. [1911 words]IamJosephJun 7, 2010 22:39166717
MORE ERRORS REPEATED. [961 words]IamJosephJun 9, 2010 00:31166717
More drivel and the saga goes on and on [181 words]dhimmi no moreJun 9, 2010 05:55166717
The pesky Copts again and the letter B and V and F [175 words]dhimmi no moreJun 9, 2010 18:02166717
WRONG AGAIN. [232 words]IamJosephJun 9, 2010 19:17166717
and who really created Allah [70 words]dhimmi no moreJun 11, 2010 18:25166717
THE FALSEHOODS OF MUSLIMS. [370 words]IamJosephJun 11, 2010 20:45166717
The Aristotelian problem and the so called tawheed [54 words]dhimmi no moreJun 14, 2010 06:24166717
DID ISLAM CREATE JERUSALEM - OR COMMIT ROBBERY AND DENIAL? [250 words]IamJosephJun 14, 2010 23:28166717
Who really created the creator? [13 words]dhimmi no moreJun 17, 2010 06:10166717
ISLAM WILL COLLAPSE UNLESS THE BALFOUR IS RESTORED. [299 words]IamJosephJun 17, 2010 21:58166717
You still did not answer [115 words]dhimmi no moreJun 20, 2010 06:49166717
4Old civilizations and their languages are not conjured away and Beer-root aka Beirut [1033 words]dhimmi no moreJun 19, 2011 07:52166717
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1Syriac and Lebanese/Syrian Arabic [11 words]dhimmi no moreDec 20, 2015 12:29166717
Egyptian colloquial Arabic [48 words]Arthur GoldschmidtDec 31, 2009 21:39166643
Thank you very much [21 words]Anne-Marie DelcambreDec 31, 2009 11:46166623
Thank You [36 words]Becky KivakDec 30, 2009 19:45166585
ironic juxtaposition [21 words]philipDec 30, 2009 13:14166562
Thank you for the grammar! [33 words]Michael TownsDec 30, 2009 10:51166550

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