THE HEBREW BIBLE PROVES THE REVERSE.

Submitted by IamJoseph (Australia), May 11, 2010 at 06:43

Oh and this is what it says in Jeremiah 25:24 (See New Living translation)

I went to the kings of Arabia the kings of the nomadic tribes of the desert

Do you know what this means? Let me help you

1. It means that there were Arabs before your bogus 500BCE

2. It means that the Arabs had kings

3. The source here is no other than the Bible

# No - it does not mean what you want to conclude. Very early in this debate I stated Arab and Arabian are two dfferent things, Arabia is the name of the entire region, while Arab is that relating to a particular ethnic race, one of many in Arabia.

Your reference to Jeremiah again proves my premise and negates yours: Jeremiah predates the Arab race and is only mentioning Arabian, namely one of the Arabian region. Egypt is from Arabia, but not Arab; Copts are Arabian but not Arab either. Nomadic tribes are also Arabian but cnstitute many Arabian races, most not around anymore.

Further, there is no Arab King mentioned in Jeremiah - which is proven by the utter vacuum of any Arab king from Jeremiah to 500 BCE. To put this matter to rest, the term ARAB cannot be seen anywhere before the 500 BCE date - which evdences that this term was applied by the fregn Greek invaders who were unable to distinguish any group from Arabian.

Most links and references try to connect two references dated 700 and 900 BCE to Arabs - agains with no imprints from those dates to the 500 BCE point - and again with no actual mention of the term ARAB therein. What cannot be argued here, is that you have not produced a single reference to 'ARAB' pre-500 BCE, nor a songle reference of Arabic writings pre-400 CE. All you are doing is menipulating references of other races and connecting them to ARABS - with no such word in the actual texts.

The fact is that even those old dates do not allow any connection with Abraham or Moses - proven by the non-monotheistic beliefs of the pre-Islamic Arabs. All this says that the Arabs simply robbed peoples' lands, then their historical and religious herutage - by the sword.

Today, we see a host of countries urserped by Arab Muslims with no historical credibility, and these states are accusing Israel of their crimes. The Hebrew bible is a very exacting and prisitine writings - it does not mispell names, having an advanced grammar with no shortage of alphabetical sounds: it does not mention Arabs anywhere, while it clearly mentions names like Arvi, which the Arab Muslims are trying to connect with themselves, then using this false premise as a springboard to connect to Abraham and Moses. But the overiding fact is they at no times followed the beliefs of those figureheads - proof only that they came much later, while the Jews who are connected to Abraham and Moses - absolutely and continually followed those beliefs. here, all the imaginative deflections and manipulations cannot alter the blatant facts on the table.

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