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More delusionsReader comment on item: "An Arabist's Guide to Egyptian Colloquial" Now Online Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 28, 2010 at 07:38 It seems that our dear iam seems to be changing his mind as we go I wrote: >Hello: Are you also aware that in some Arabic language dialects ani also means I !!! Oh let me guess: they stole it too right? And this is his reply >Yes, I know that ana and ani, the male/female gender applies here, Wrong. ana is both masculine and feminine so if you our dear iam is a man you would say: ana ghalabawi kabeer and if you are a she iam then it would be: ana ghalabawiya kabeera If you were from pakistan I would have said to you to stick to Urdu!! >and that ani is also I in Arabic. You changed your mind did you? > But the relavent factor is ANO does not apply as Arabic. While both Hebrew and Arabic have a similar word to the ancient Egyptian - Arabic, Hebrew and Syriac have nothing in common with the language of Egypt get over it! And did you ever take a class in Linguistics? Let me guess you did not right? >the stand out factor here is that we have ancient Hebrew independently as ANI adjacent to ancient Egyptian - but no Arabic. This says the Arabic writings, which emerged only in 400 CE [at least after 300 CE], is not an original language but an admix of many ancient dialecs. Oh so it is 300CE now. What a hypocrite Well when you visit the Dept of Arabic and islamic studies at Hebrew University ask them about 'En 'Avadat inscription that was discovered in Israel and it is in Arabic and Aramaic and is dated 88CE to 150CE and do you think that it was also made up? Oh and ask them about Qaryat al-Faw inscription dated BCE? But remember no cockamamie stuff or they will laugh at you I promise you >We know also that the original Egyptians are not Arab and never spoke Arabic So? > - which clearly explains why Arab and Arabian are two different phenomenons. Hello: you need to work on your command of the English language > The Greeks, when they invaded Arabia, The Greeks invaded Arabia? when was that? >were not familiar with the various Arabian groupings in this region, and when the Arab peoples emerged, they called them Arabs - a shortened coinage for Arabian. Gobbeldygook Here is a word of advise: Do not tell them that at Hebrew University or they will laugh at you >The Coptics, kurds, Jews - who predate the Arab grouping, all became Arab - which is dis-historical. Not only the Copts but 92% of today's Egyptians (Muslims and Copts) are of Cotpic stock but in the Middle East evryone has multiple layers so you can have an Egyptian who is Muslim and who regards himself as a true Egyptian but also an Arab and a Sunni and this is what Milad Hanna's book is all about remember? But if you put yourself in one compartment then you have conflicts and this is what is going on now >This is the true reason we find no Arabic writings before 300-400 CE, a relatively recent date, while all other true ancient writngs can be seen. Hello: How about 'En 'Avadat? and how about Qaryat al-Faw? What a hypocrite >It is also the reason we find no kings, cities, wars, monuments of ARABS in Arabia pre-500 BCE. The 3 examples given in this forum, as claims for ARABS pre-500 BCE are falsified and incorrect - they do not mention ARAB nor do they display a clear thread of imprints since those dates - Then write a book and tell the world that Resto and Hoyland and Vesrteegh are all wrong and I promise you you will be making a fool of yourself >most scholars agree these claims cannot be verified and are assumptions only. Could you name a name or two? And if you tell them this as Hebrew University they will laugh at you >The same applies with Islamic states created by Briton, such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states and Jordan - these are all new and never existed 150 years ago - So? >they were created with oil borders, in secret, and given to one family's members - very different from Israel. And your point is? Then I wrote >Anok Pe (or Coptic alpha Nu O kappa Pi Ey)Oh references?:1. I urge the readers to check "The Gospel of Thomas" check verse 61 where it says "I am ..." and this is in Sahidic Coptic which would have been the dialect of the Pharaohs2. Check Crum dictionary3. And here is your bonus from Bohairic Coptic and for this see Nabil Mattar's book "Bohairic Coptic" and for this see page 176 and I am which in Egyptian language is I the one or I am and it isAnok Pe ># Again, there is denial and deflection here. While the word I [ANO] may have different forms, specially with today's modern Coptics, the word ANO being Egyptian is irrefutable as also one of the forms of I in the Egyptian language. Then provide us with a reference that the word I am in Egytpian is Ano Chi and not Anok Pe or Ang? Is this asking for much? >There is none better to say so than the Hebrew bible and the Jews: Hello: The Bible is not a dictionary! You sound like Muslims when they are told that there are mistakes in Quranic Arabic then we hear from them that if the Qur'an has what appears to be a mistake then it is not really a mistake! How pathetic >they were in ancient Egypt, clearly mentioned in an Egyptian stelle One single "etching" or is it itching! But I guess in your bizarre world the fact that the Bible mentions the word Arab and Ahiqar and King Sarong telling us about the Arabs do not count! What a hypocrite >and they have advanced alphabetical books of Egypt's terrain and history, including its belief systems, its kings, rivers, diets, politics, cities, monuments, etc. You sound like Muslims just change the word Jews and make it Muslims et voila and this is what we hear from Muslims too! >The Hebrew bible is not comprobable with the Quran - it predates and gives accurate historical factors, as opposed being based on 'belief". So?This is a claim and no more >The Arabs have absolutely nothing about ancient Egypt, and have been ruining that country by erasing all relics which negates history in that land; they have been doing the same in Palestine - destroying sites which predate Islam and the Arab race, such as Joseph's 4000 year tomb, historical relics in the temple mount, and telling its peoples Jews must be forbidden in Jerusalem and Hebron - the very birthplaces of Judaism and Monotheism. Hello: Monotheism is the biggest fraud in the history of man/woman kind do you want to know more? Just ask >We see this Islamic trait even in places like India, where sacred Hindu sites were destroyed and mosques dumped on it - the same was seen recently with the Buddha relics in Afghanistan - these are crimes against humanity's heritage. Gobbledygook >The Arabs who became Islamic, know about Abraham and Moses only from the Jews - yet they call Jews as infidels and a blessing to kill. Freedom fighters must start at home - Muslims must engage their rulers and teachers to stop parading false blood libels, the Protocols, Jews never had a homeland and Capital, etc. There is no such thing as BELIEF or Godliness when such lies are accepted so impudently. Not Ibrahim wa Musa again!... Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. 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