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More ignoranceReader comment on item: "An Arabist's Guide to Egyptian Colloquial" Now Online Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jun 6, 2010 at 08:33 For the readers read and laugh Notice that our dear ima tells us something about the letter V and how it does not exist in ancient languages and it is a miracle that Hebrew has the letter V but what does this have to do with Arabic or EA only allahua3lam and he was told that Coptic has the letter V but it does not make it a unique language and based on his little cockmamie theory about the letter V the word Arvi is not Arab and therefore there were no Arabs! Oh read and laugh >Now for readers that can read books something that you our dear iam cannot I urge them to check Nabil Matter "A study in Bohairic Coptic" Published by Hope publishing house Pasadena. For the readers notice that our dear iam the hypocrite deleted my reference on page 6 of the above book where the author wrote 2. Beta or Veta Then congratulations our dear iam but it seems that Coptic is also a unique language in your bizzare world For thr readers the language of ancient Egypt or the language of the likes of the great Ramses the second is called the Egyptian language or metremnkemi and it was written in various alphabets including Hieroglyphs then Hieratic then Demotic and then Coptic and if you listen to Coptic liturgy then you are hearing the spoken language of Ramses the second the core of the language and its grammar did not change that much and it is subject verb object and yes there are some word decay in Coptic so God changes from being NTR into 'eNT and KMT or Egypt becomes KeMi but it is the same language And what is most amazing is that EA uses the same grammatical structure as in Egyptian where we have subject then verb then object which is very different from Arabic >This is utter nonsense. Here is a chart of the ancient Phoenecian - it does NOT contain the 'V' Alphabet: http://phoenicia.org/tblalpha.html Hello: we are talking about Coptic or did you forget? and the real nonsense here is your drivel >Here is a chart of the ancient Hebrew - it does contain the 'V': http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/3_home.html What does Hebrew have to do with the language of Egypt? Let me help you: Nothing. > You mean the language of 1st Century Egypt which you are presenting as ancient Egypt - falsely? metremnkemi or in this case the Coptic script is the language of Egypt written in Greek alphabet and added to it 6 consonants that did not exist in Greek or did you forget and you are wrong Coptic alphabet was introduced in the 3rd century CE and it is the same language that Ramses spoke or did the Copts also drop from the skies in the 3rd century just like the Arabic language? Your Hebrew Allah was busy dropping people from the skies in the 3rd and 4th centuries right? Oh by the way? Do you know what is a language and what is an alphabet? Let me guess you do not and let me help you they do not drop from the sky And do you think for a moment that if your Musa wa Ibrahim or sorry Avraham oh the V is very important drop from the sky they will undrestand your Hebrew? Let me guess thay will not if you speak Aramaic this would help You still did not answer the question: What does this have to do with Hebrew? Let me help you nothing > This is what I responded to - your manipulation to make a recent language of Arabic, What does the fact that theletter V exists in the language of Egypt to do with Arabic or with EA for this matter? Surpise me with an answer >first appearing as late as the 4th century - Oh your cockammaie theory that the Arabic language dropped from the sky? Or was it revealed as a burning bush by your Hebrew Allah? Which one is it? > as ancient as nations which predate the Arab race. Oh the "Arab race" that is attested in the literary sources as early as 900BCE? Go and contact the Dept of Islamic studies and Arabic at Hebrew Universiy via e-mail and ask them the following questions: 1. Is it true that the literary sources tell us about the Arabs as early as 900BCE 2. Is it ture that the Arabic language goes back to 1500BCE 3. Is it true that the first inscription in Arabic goes back to 100-300BCE 4. Is the 'En Avdot (also Abdot) oh the darn V letter for real and it is dated to 87-150CE and is this Arabic? 5. They told me (the me here is you iam) in my Hebrew madrassa (midrash) that the Arab race appeared out of no where in 500BCE and that Arabic dropped from the sky in 400CE is this true? and tell them not to laugh at you Let us see what they say and you can post the response here if it is fine with Dr Pipes But my words of advice 1. No Musa wa Ibrahim or is it Avraham 2. No V letter cockamamie theory 3. No mention of Hebrew because it has nothing to do with anything I will be waiting for their answer with great anticipation >Obviously, you have no proof because there is none - Hello what does the fact that the language of Egypt (not Arabic and not EA) has the letter V and what does this have to do with Hebrew? And what does this have to do with Arabic or even EA? ... >thus your manipulation to fool people. The one that is a fool is you. Go and tell them your nonsense at Hebrew University that the Arabs dropped from the sky and Arabic also dropped from the sky and they will laugh at you Also tell them your little cockmamaie theory about the letter V what ever that is and they will tell you but the "Arab race" also tell us that their Arabic Allah made the Arabic langauge unique by revealing it with a unique letter that you will find only in Arabic and that is the dad letter as in Reda and this is why they call it lughat al-dad You see we hear the same nonsense from funddies in all religions My lingua sacra is unique Oh please >The Hebrew introduced the 'V' letter, while the other ancient languages did not have this letter or sound. That Arabic uses the B for AVraham [Ibrahim] says it adapted from the Latin bible, having no Arabic writings pre-400 CE. The charts also say that Phnoenceain was not the prototype of the Hebrew as is commonly portrayed - it is the other way around. We have no ancient Phoenecian alphabetical books as with the Hebrew - even though Phoenecia was an older kingdom and one which lasted about a 1000 years after the Hebrew emerged. This is not a standout anomaly - the Hebrew bible made a host of introductions for humanity, including:The DAY and WEEK. Hello: stay focused > I am. You have nothing which evidences Arabic as an ancient language older than 400 CE because it is a recent admix of ancient languages - But what does this have to do with EA or with the language of Egypt? Nothing >You have no proof of an Arab race pre-500 BCE - because it never existed - This is real evidence that you are poorly educated in the basics of Greek logic but again they do not teach it in your madrassa right? Then how can you prove that they did not exist? Let me help you: you cannot prove or dispove that something does not exist and how many times did I tell you that "argument from silence" is a poor argument but you did not get it then you have the chutzpah to tell us that you study history and this is basic a basic axiom in the study of history Oh I forgot that in your world the Bible is a history book Shame on you >thus you present bogus references of Arvi and other words which can be manipulated to sound like Arab. Oh tell them at Hebrew University this little gem and they will laugh at you > You have no proof of the 'V' in any language predating the Hebrew - What does Hebrew have to do with anything? Oh and go and tell those that translate the Bible into English about your cockamamie theory and they will laugh at you. You are not an English speaker and your English is poor and you are the last one to pontificate about translations into English do you get it? Oh and did the sage Ahiqar also speak Hebrew when he was telling us about the Arabs? Oh I forgot Arvi? You are and you must padon me a joke And in your bizarre world what does this word Arvi mean? >making your manipulation of Arvi and Avdat all the more bogus. 'En Avdot would be Arabic 3en Abdot oh are we talking about the extant inscription in Arabic dated 87-150CE? What do you think our dear iam? Oh Arvi? do not even try to translate anything into English And oh get your money back from your Madrassa Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (191) on this item
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