THERE IS NOTHING SACRED ABOUT FALSEHOODS.

Submitted by IamJoseph (Australia), Jun 7, 2010 at 22:39

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jun 6, 2010 at 08:33

For the readers read and laugh

Notice that our dear ima tells us something about the letter V and how it does not exist in ancient languages

# Correct, the letter V exposes your falsehoods. But its not my opinion - I gave you charts of those alphabets: the V came from the Hebrew.

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and it is a miracle that Hebrew has the letter V but what does this have to do with Arabic

# It is a stumbling block which exposes the lie the Arab race existed pre-500 BCE or that they had any connection with Avraham. This is also backed by the pre-Islamic Arab history: they never observed the Abrahamic and Mosaic belief and were pagan. This is not a derogatory statement [Jews' ancesters were also pagan] - but it exposes a lie and affirms the historical fact we have been debating here. Thus the premise of 'INFIDEL' is a joke when a new kid on the Monatheistic platform says this to those who introduced this belief system. Equally, its a joke when Arab Muslims tell Jews they are ccupying Islamic land in Palestine - the truth is that all Arab states created by Briton are historical fictions which never existed 120 years ago, and created for 30 barrels of oil - robbery commited 120 years ago can hardly be called sacred or Islamic. These Regime states were set up in secret without the world's nations voting at the UN [as was the case with Israel].

So you can see the 'V' is of fulcrum importance here - it gives us a thread of dots which exposes one of the greatest falsehoods in the world today. The Arabs get away with it because of good old Europe overwhleming the UN with 25 EU states and 57 Islamic states - but when Arabs leave the room - those European Christians are laughing at you: they know that Arabs stole Jewish lands and the Arabs have begun to beleve these falsehoods or cling to them with impudence. The 'V' is your stumbling block: Abraham with a 'B' is a post-Latin lift off from the Gospels! And the Gospels is denied by Muslims only because they wish to make their own preferred messenger transcendent - they did this with Abraham and Moses too! It does not take rocket science to know that both the Quran and the Judeo-Christian bibles are equally true - one block must be false. Shall we refer to 'BELIEF', historical facts - or a psychiatrist?

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the letter V but it does not make it a unique language and based on his little cockmamie theory about the letter V the word Arvi is not Arab and therefore there were no Arabs!

# That's what you say - but the facts are different. See above. No V - no Hebrew - no Avraham.

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For thr readers the language of ancient Egypt or the language of the likes of the great Ramses the second is called the Egyptian language or metremnkemi and it was written in various alphabets including Hieroglyphs then Hieratic then Demotic and then Coptic and if you listen to Coptic liturgy then you are hearing the spoken language of Ramses the second the core of the language and its grammar did not change that much and it is subject verb object and yes there are some word decay in Coptic so God changes from being NTR into 'eNT and KMT or Egypt becomes KeMi but it is the same language

# The language of Ramassey has nothing whatsoever to do with Arabs - the latter never existed at this time. Muslims know of Ramasey from the Jews exiled in Babylon, and this is also the source for the Quran - there was no Arabic writings till 400 CE, remeber? Ramases is first mentioned in the Hebrew bible - later confirmed as a 'historical writings' when stone etched writings in Egypt were deciphered. This is absolute proof no one in Arabia knew of Abraham outside of the Hebrew writings, and none of them followed Monotheism.

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And what is most amazing is that EA uses the same grammatical structure as in Egyptian where we have subject then verb then object which is very different from Arabic

# Its not amazing. The Hebrew also uses the same grammatical mode, as does the Hindhi writings. The Arabic copied this existing style recently.

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What does Hebrew have to do with the language of Egypt? Let me help you: Nothing.

# A lot. See above. The Hebrew is the first writings which mentioned Egypt aside from stone etchings later found in Egypt.

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metremnkemi or in this case the Coptic script is the language of Egypt written in Greek alphabet and added to it 6 consonants that did not exist in Greek or did you forget and you are wrong Coptic alphabet was introduced in the 3rd century CE and it is the same language that Ramses spoke or did the Copts also drop from the skies in the 3rd century just like the Arabic language? Your Hebrew Allah was busy dropping people from the skies in the 3rd and 4th centuries right?

# The Coptics took some from the Greeks after the Greeks invaded Arabia - normal osmosis occured. The Arabic is an admix which emerged a 1000 years later from various existing languages, including the omosized coptics, aramaic, Hebrew & Latin. There is no Arabic independent writings before 400 CE or thereabout - +_ 70 years. Arabic and Arab are new in Arabia.

The factor of debate remains despite your silly deflections and denial: the Copts, the Jews, the Kurds are older than both the Arabic writings and the Arab race per se. And you have not been able to put up a single disputational proof thus far. You cannot produce the word 'ARAB' pre-500 BCE [manipulating words which sound similar which appear once or twice in a period of 2000 years]; you cannot put up Arabic writings pre-400 CE [manipulating a 328 set of alphabets which you claim as your prrof]: do you not see the run away difference in the volumous Hebrew writings which is the older race here?

This denial has blatant reasons: it says that the claim of Arab Muslims of Jews occupying Islamic sacred soil is rubbish - how can Jews occupy Islamic lands when Islam and Arab never existed then? How can Muslims deny they were in the front rows of the Roman army destroying the Jewish Jerusalem temple - which they now call a Zionist myth? How can a people making such blatant false claims be religious or Godly? Do Muslims even understand that if there was no Jewish temple - there would be no Christianity or Islam: the Gospels says one Jesus visited that Zionist Mythical temple, and the Roma archives says the pre-Islamic Arabs were the most savage about destroying the temple. This says the entire Islamic belief is based on falsehoods and that the hatred towards Jews pre-dated the Quran - negating any possibility of revelation here. The hate did not come from the Quran - it was inserted in the quran which it predated. The simple V' letter, historical facts and the Gospels, by default, KO's everything you say. The UN Madarassa and the EU disagrees!

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Oh by the way? Do you know what is a language and what is an alphabet? Let me guess you do not and let me help you they do not drop from the sky

# keep guessing. But I think better you ask why do Muslim Arabs not know Hebrew - the language of Avraham - I think that is a far more impacting question.

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And do you think for a moment that if your Musa wa Ibrahim or sorry Avraham oh the V is very important drop from the sky they will undrestand your Hebrew? Let me guess thay will not if you speak Aramaic this would help.

# They will recognise it as a true derivitive of their own language. The natural changes would not impact - today we would find the English spoken 300 years ago also showing the same natural variances: would you pronounce Night the same way it was pronounced 300 years ago? Your question is a bogus one.

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Oh your cockammaie theory that the Arabic language dropped from the sky? Or was it revealed as a burning bush by your Hebrew Allah? Which one is it?

# No, it could not have dropped from the sky - this is what you are saying, that it is ancient with no impriunts whatsoever. Like English, which is an admix of pre-existing languages, Arabic also came from this same premise. You are saying, by defalut, that Arab came from the sky - because there was no Arabic writings pre-400 CE, just like there was no English at that time.

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Oh the "Arab race" that is attested in the literary sources as early as 900BCE?

# I have shown that is false. The word 'ARAB' does not appear there. Arabian and Arab are not the same - the former is ancient - the latter recent. The Greeks lived in Arabia before the Arab race existed - they just named a new group which emerged as ARAB - but this word does not appear anywhere before 500 BCE. All your references are bogus, and when examined, we find one word 900 BCE which is not'ARAB' but which you cling to as your proof by manipulating this similar sounding word, totally out of context of its narratives, and with no follow-up transit points from 900 BCE to 500 BCE. Anyone can see, if the word Hebrew or Israel appears 3000 years ago - it is also seen throughout historical writings, in wars, in cities and in follow up books every 50 years - in Hebrew and in cross-nation writings. This is hardly what we see with the word 'ARAB' - despite that the Arab peoples were never exiled and dispersed. You should take up rocket science instead if denying factual history:.

FACT: THE JEWS HAVE NEVER STOLEN ANYONE'S LAND IN ALL THEIR 4000 YEAR HISTORY - AND ALL HONEST MUSLIMS KNOW THIS FACT.

FACT: JERUSALEM AND HEBRON ARE JEWISH CITIES BEFORE ISLAM AND THE ARAB RACE EXISTED.

ABRAHAM AND MOSES WERE NOT MUSLIMS BY BELIEF - AND NOT ARAB BY RACE.

Unfortunately, Muslims feel affronted of this truth - and are far away from respecting and thanking Jews for preserving Monotheism against numerous existential wars to uphold the truth. Muslims think by dumping a Mosque on another peoples' lands - with the support of Europe, the UN and countries blackmailed by oil - they can turn blatant falsehoods into truth and light into darkness. Here's what the book of books says:

"I WILL PROVE ALL YOUR ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL AS FALSE"

"AND HE SEPERATED THE LIGHT FROM THE DARKNESS'.

You can see how the simple letter of V' exposes all your lies. The Hebrew writings is the most credible possessed by humanity - by period of time, world impact and cencus:

14M Jews, 2B Christians and a host of historical archives from other nations - says the world does not believe what Muslims say - even when they remain silent of your lies and support it for 30 barres of oil.

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