Our dear Ridwan aka Radwan

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 22, 2007 at 21:01

You know why I know now that your do not know any Arabic because you wrote

>Sura Taubah ayah 72

ROTFL Pakistani Arabic. Let me correct your poor Arabic (and there is more bogus Arabic later on) it is

Surat al-tauba nimrat al-aya ethnain wa sab3een.

You ain't no Arab.

>and I'm not using a hafiz was generally used as a person who memorized 100, 000

One word: Bogus. But I will be nice and give you a chance: provide me with reference that would support such a bizarre claim that the Pakistani word hafiz is refering to those that memorize the hadith. And provide me with evidence that there are indeed 100,000 ahadith

Now you would agree with me that Muhammad was a prophet for 23 years. Right? Now we have 201,480 minutes in 23 years. I would give him 10 hours per day of rest, and sleep. This would be 83,950 minutes. So the balance now is: 117,530 minutes where Muhammad will be eating fighting raiding caravans and yes dishing out ahadith. And let us say it takes him 10-15 minutes to dish out a hadith so if the total is indeed 100,000 ahadith then the time would be 150,000 minutes! Which is far more than the 117,530 minutes. Do you know what this means? it means that your claim is just bogus and there are no 100,000 ahadith unless the ahadith are bogus. Muhammad could not have had the time to dish out 100,000 ahadith

See how easy logic can be?and how come you did not know that?

And you still did not answer my question so what do arabs call he who memorizes the Qur'an?

>read islamic history and you'll find out

Typical tablighee response. So where do I find in Islamic history that a hafiz is he who memorizes 100,000 ahadith? Your claim is bogus

>Now I am not lying

Did I accuse you of being a liar? And now we have the mother of all gems and you wrote

>about ul even in hadith it is quoted as ul

ROTFL. You do not know what is the Arabic definite article do you? The Arabic definite article is al or alif and lam as in al-hadith, al-Qur'an, al-mai'da or THE hadith, ThE Qur'an and THE table. It is vocalized in modern Arabic as el. And why do you Pakistanis have no clue about when and how to use the Arabic definte article? Well I guess it is like calling a radwan a rizwan in Paki/Arabic

The only Muslims that have no clue about the Arabic definite article are Pakistanis and tablighees. You cannot be an Arab so are you a Paki/Tablighee?

>so it can be lying as hadith

No it is called al-hadith! See? you are clueless about the Arabic al.

> ...is straight Arabic and in Quran

No it is called al-Qur'an or the Qur'an if you wish. See? How come you did not know that?

>....there are word s that start with ul

One word: your are and you must pardon me clueless. I'm talikng about the definite artilce al. And no the arabic definite artilce is not ul and you can ask your Leb friends. Shame on you for pontificating about a language that you do not know and that is Arabic.

See what happens when you become the slave of a foreign language, Arabic that is, and culture, the Arabic culture that is?

>Quran is purest form of Arabic is lying?

So where do i find a definite article in the Qur'an that would be ul? Let me help you: it does not exist.

As for the Qur'an it is a confused and cofusing book and no it is not written in pure arabic it is full of foreign andf non Arabic words. If you would like to know more just let me know. And it is a book that you cannot read in Arabic and really understan.

>not Sodom and Gamorrah how is it he had battle on the mountain of Uhud and badr?If he was hundrerds of miles away

And your point is? Could it be because he was a merchant? It says in the Qur'an in 37:133-138 that he was able to view the site of sodom and gamorrah during the day and at night. It deos not say in the Qur'an that Muahmmad was able to see the sites of Badr and Uhud by day and by night. This means that he lived far north of Mecca and may he travelled south to loot and fight! What doy uo think ya ayuha al-faylasoof al-kabeer?

SNIP bogus Muslim falsafa and let me remind you that the Qur'an is not kitab 3ilm aw kitab tib aw titab nahw aw kitab tarikh. You did not get this did you?

>and Quraysh was so named because when they traded with Syria the fisrt leader often brough samak al-qirsh

ROTFL with the heat of Arabia can you imagine the smell of a rotten shark that they were carrying for hundereds of miles? Bogus again. But where can we find such funny story? In the bogus sira or the bogus hadith? And no there was no Bahira if you can tell us what the word ilaf in Surat Quraish really means and when was the last time you used the word Ilaf in a sentence? and why did his clan call themsleves a word derived from the word shark unless they lived close to the sea and my evidence is Q37:133-138. See? logic is so easy.

You are not an Arab. You are a Pakistani and the word for today

wa ma arsalna rasulan ila bilisani qawmuhu

Hint: the Qur'an really says that islam is the religion of the arabs only and you ain't no Hijazi Arab

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