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Response to Akbar's 'Denying History'Reader comment on item: A Christian Boom Submitted by Servant of Christ (United States), Oct 7, 2006 at 23:52 Everything that you described about Islam is the history of Christianity. You and others like you wish that Islam had that history, but it is Christianity's history that is written in blood. Again, the things done in the name of Christianity were done by people who felt the Bible commanded them to do it. The African slave trade and the colonization of Africa and other countries were done to civilize the natives in the name of Christianity. Acts 20:30, "Even from you own number men will arise and distort the truth." "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." 2 Corinthians 11:13-14. The African slave trade happened because of people who tried to justify their reasoning by the Bible. Take note that the slaves were given over by their own tribes. If you take time to observe the differences of slaves in the Bible and slaves back then, you can see that there are huge differences. 1. Slaves became slaves through choice. 2. Being a slave was the same as being an indentured servant. 3. The slave was to be freed within 7 years. 4. Upon being freed, the slave was to be given his pay along with provisions. 5. Many slaves held high positions. Such as a man hiring a teacher for his son. 6. The slave was to be treated as a human, true he was his master's possession for the allotted time of 7 years, but if the slave was abused, there would be consequences for the master. Clearly the slaves of the Bible were not the slaves of back then. No matter how much you try to negate the violent history of Christianity. There is no way to deny it. You have the witch trials, holocaust, slave trade, colonization, the slaughter of the Native americans, etc. You continue to be irrational in your posts. If Islam is been spread by force, how do you explain it's rise in the West? Especially, the United States. In fact a Muslim convert is close to being elected to the United States congress. I'm sure if you ask him and other African Americans if Islam raped, pillage, and committed violent acts. They would say if was ther former Christian slave masters who committed the act. What was the Christian slave masters and the KKK rational for raping, killing, and committing violet acts towards African Americans? They stated that the Bible states that African Americans were condermed to a life of servitude due to a curse in Noah's story in the Bible. Wrong, you are suggesting the curse of Ham? Actually it is the curse of Canaan. The descendents of Canaan were the Sodomites and Gommorhites. Ham had 4 children. So actually, the other 3 African descendents were not cursed. Now I will address the other ones. Witch trials: Some people had good reasons to burn some. If you research witches or the occult, you can see why. Of course, there were sometimes instances where the Church abused its powers. There were some corrupt burnings, and some that had perfectly good reasoning. Take note that this was during the age of superstition (the opposite of religion). Again, strawman. Although the Bible does say that sorcerers and such are not to be allowed, there were some instances where the Church did so just to instil fear. Hence, it is not deemed Christian. Holocaust? Wow, that's very weak. Hitler has deceived Islam then. Satan has deceived Islam. Hitler was a Neo-pagan, his actions show it. He tried to rally people because he made them think it was Christian, wrong. Why would Jesus, the Savior of the Jews, wish to kill his own people for no reason? If you do some research, Hitler lied because he believed in racial supremacy, and he killed Christians as well as Jews. Colonization: That was in the name of the King/Queen of (Random European country). In other words, it was in the name of conquest not religion. KKK: They preached racial supremacy. They tried to justify their reasoning by saying Jesus was white (although he was Jewish). These are the lies and deceits that Satan tries to fool you with. Wow, anytime an Muslim hasn't been elected, you say, "It's because Christians are evil." That's like a Black man who did not get elected as President calling the US a racist nation. Again, stop evading my point over doctrines, an argument over strawman will avail you nothing. The statement about Bush is his own statement not mine. No Christian leader denied his statement in fact they support it. They choose to follow Satan instead of God and therefore will be punished in both this life and the next. Like I stated in my original post. Islam has already won. Christianity was defeated by secularism in the West a long time ago. There is not much influence that Christianity has on the lives of their people in the West. The secular leaders are only using Christianity to fight Islam so they can continue their march to enslave the world. They have people like you brain washed to see Islam as the enemy, but it was not Islam that destroyed family life in the west, it was not Islam that encourage the rise of homosexuality in the west, it was not Islam that promoted the quest for materail life and the neglect of spiritual life in the west, it was not Islam that corrupted the political, educationl, and financial system in the west. So they promote the continued ignorance of people like you so you will not see the reality of your situation. Only Islam can defeat them amd bring peace back to the world. Find me the quote. Please validate this statement. First, there are many Christians which disagree with Bush, you my friend have been misinformed. Second, the US has something called the Seperation of Church and State. That being said, if Bush decided to announce that he would be following the footsteps of Jesus, he would be impeached (I am not implying that he is). Third, you have no idea of what Christianity is speaking. This world is lost, Christianity is on the mission of saving as many souls before it is too late. In the end of days there will be wars, crimes, murdereres, idolaters, homosexuals, sorcerers, and sexual immoralities (which is completely true). The fact is, Satan rules this world, why? Because humanity wants him too. We are the Light of the world, our mission is to save others. We will try to hold back the world's downfall but it will come eventually. You say this is the downfall of Christianity? No, in fact it is not. You seem to completely evade my statements. There are testimonies of people who WERE Muslims who HAVE BEEN killed, tortured, and more. Your teachings ALLOW rape. Ours do not. There may be rapists who are Westerners or these so called Christian nations, but why do you keep assuming that the INDIVIDUAL is a Christian? Islam is still forcing people to follow or die. An eye for a life is the teaching of Islam. Please, stop with these assumptions about the 'West' or False Prophets/Teachers/Followers. If you wish to debate, take it to the doctrine. While these people are going against the Christian doctrine, your people are following the Islam doctrine (that's why I name examples of rape, murder, etc). See the difference? Christianity objects to the things people do, your religion does not object. May the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob Bless You All Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. 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