You are making arguments about Truth,Sin,hell,heaven,Hell,Grace, incomprehensible.

Submitted by Shri devi (India), Oct 21, 2007 at 10:49

Dear Christofer,

It is shown by scientists the fist signs of Human species appeared before 150000 years before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

There is conflicting dates on many things.

But whatever maybe it is not 4004 BC where the Human race started.

You have mentioned that by the Grace of jesus only an individual can be saved. Is not God partial here that only humans after 0 AD will be saved whereas the vast majotiy of human race of 150000 years will be unsaved.

No, because it is grace. Grace is defined as something given that is not deserved. Furthermore, those who have come before the time of Jesus could still have been saved.

Why we should ponder over a hell ( which is truth for you ) and it can be achieved only by the Grace of the God then what is the need of it?

One more question is that what do you mean by Saving? Is it for judging favourably on Judgement day ?

Saved from Hell.

In another reply I already pointed out that the concept of Time negates Heaven and Hell. If time is there Heaven and Hell have to be infinite or else if Time is not there then the suffering and pleasures of both Hell/heaven disappears.

Not necessarily. God remains incomprehensible to our minds, but it is certain that time will continue. Heaven and Hell are infinite, I don't understand your argument.

Here you have mentioned that God is incomprehensible, but hell,Sins, Heavean are all truths which can be comprehensible I think something is wrong with you in your thinking. Whenever something is not reasonable you go to the reason that God is incomprehensible, Eternal Hell is suffered by a Sepearte body provided by the God. Eternal Heaven is only provided by the grace of the God. These are somethings not concrete ehich you are thinking as truth.

If time is infinite the Hellfire will continue indefinitely then what will happen to the suffering, Then sufferings will also be indefinite. There is no end to suffering. Suffering,suffering,suffering how long? till infinity. You imagine the absurdity of this thought.

It is not absurdity that those who forsake God will suffer into eternity. It is uneasy yes for all of us but it's not logically absurd. Your cannot accept Heaven nor Hell because it's not emotionally appealing, but neither is the world we live in. Acceptance of the truth has no bearing on whether we like the whole truth or not.

A Human is having an average age of say 80 years and suppose he fell out of the Grace of God for whatever reasons he has to suffer eternal Hell ( Truth?) for years of trillions trillions trillions trillions trillions ............... till infinity in hellfire. Is it the truth we have to believe.

Then your God is very very inhumane and very much ungodly. ( You comapre with jesus who has other cheek for beating by a beater,). Is it the truth you want us to believe.

Wish you all Happiness, Peace, Health wealth here and hereafter.

Devi

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