Our dear Matthew al-tablighee and more disasters in Q83:18 and what on earth is the meaning of عليين?

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jan 28, 2022 at 07:42

Our dear Matthew al-Tablighee told us that he teaches Arabic so help us, Kuffar, what on earth does the word عليين mean? Hint: No one has a clue!

So let us read the verse Q83:18:

كلا ان كتب الابرار لفي عليين

Le us first fix this poor Arabic and I will only add the missing consonants and the letter Alif as in Kitab

كلّا إنّ كتاب الابرار لفي عليّين

Notice that the word عليين when corrected has 3 consecutive ي ! How do you pronounce it? This is insane

Oh I forgot to add a Shadda above the Lam letter in عليّين so here is the final edited word: علّيّين

This verse can be rendered as: No! Truly the book of the virtuous is in علّيّين (notice that I left the word untranslated because the word علّيّينhas no meaning).

al-Tabari starts his tafsir by telling us that اختلف اهل التأويل في معنى عليين

Or: al-Mufasereen disagreed about the meaning of the word عليين

This did not stop every Sahabi and his cousin to tell us what the word really means!

1. السماء السابعة or the Seventh Sky and why would Allah does tell us عليين means السماء السابعة? Only Allahu A'lam

2. السماء العليا or the High Sky! Mashallah there is السماء العليا what ever that is.

3. السماء عند الله or the Sky near/at Allah whatever that is.

4. الجنة or heaven. Why would Allah just say الجنة and make it easy for all of us? Only Allahu A'lam

5. More? سدرة المنتهى, قاءمة العرش اليمني , السماء السابعة وفيها ارواح المؤمنين and my most favorite is the opinion of a certain كعب الاحبار who clearly had no clue so he provides an answer clearly is all made up nonsense and the reader will find it in the link to al-Tabari's Tafsir of this disaster.

http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/tabary/sura83-aya18.html

And here is a link to the translation of another so called "renowned scholar" his name is Khattab and he is Egyptian so his mother tongue in Arabic and not Urdu like our dear Matthew al-tablighee

https://quran.com/83:18?font=v1&translations=131%2C20

The question is: Why would the meaning of the word عليين be lost during the lifetime of Abul Qasim aka Muhammad? As you can see those providing the meaning of the word عليين some of the big names of the followers of Prophet Quthm aka Muhammad. Could it be that the some of the Quranic text PRE-DATE Muhammad and by the time he started to receive so called revelations the meaning of the word was lost? Or could it be that the Qur'an was not canonized until the late 2nd and early 3rd century of Islam? However, the meaning of the word عليينwas lost.

Next? What on earth is المطففين in Q83:1? This word is edited by al-mufasereen as: المطفففين and because the extra ف is not in the Quranic rasm al-Mufasereen had to remove the extra ف and add a Shadda et voila we have the word in today's Qur'an: المطفّفين and how on earth can you pronounce not two but three consecutive ف? Only Allahu A'lam. This word has no clear meaning and without al-Tabari who must have been very familiar with the NT: Matthew 21:12 and came to the conclusion that this word has to do with the traders!

What a disaster

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