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Our dear Matthew al-Tablighee and "Monotheism v. Polytheism" The Pagans of Mecca and the Jews Refute Muhammad's "monotheism"! What a disasterReader comment on item: Israel Has a War to Win Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 14, 2022 at 18:09 Our dear Matthew al-tablighee tells us that monotheism is great but why is it great? We do not get an answer! Because he is not aware of the disasters in his books. Now, the smart Meccan pagans and the pesky Jews refute Muhammad's monotheism and it is all in al-Tabari's tafsir of Surat al-Ikhlas (not the tablighee Surah Ikhlas):1 so read and laugh This is from an old post of mine: Now, let us turn to al-Tabari so see what he says about this little disaster (you will find the same story in al-Sira al-Nabawiyya (and it is not the tablighee an nabawiyya) of Ibn Hisham's redaction of Ibn Ishaq's Sira pages 572-573) 1. al-Tabari says that the word احد or Ahad should be واحد Wahid! What a disaster al-Tabari is correcting the author's poor Arabic 2. Then we have the funny story that is supposed to be Sabab al-Nuzul or the reason for revelation for this little gem and here we go الْقَوْل فِي تَأْوِيل قَوْله تَعَالَى : { قُلْ هُوَ اللَّه أَحَد } ذُكِرَ أَنَّ الْمُشْرِكِينَ سَأَلُوا رَسُول اللَّه صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ نَسَب رَبّ الْعِزَّة , فَأَنْزَلَ اللَّه هَذَا السُّورَة جَوَابًا لَهُمْ . وَقَالَ بَعْضهمْ : بَلْ نَزَلَتْ مِنْ أَجْل أَنَّ الْيَهُود سَأَلُوهُ , فَقَالُوا لَهُ : هَذَا اللَّه خَلْق الْخَلْق , فَمَنْ خَلَقَ اللَّه ؟ So al-Tabari is saying that it was either the smart Meccan polytheists or may be the pesky Jews that asked your so called prophet so which group was it the Jews or the polytheists oh let me guess al-Tabair has no clue For the readers the polytheists posed the following question to Muhammad: "who Allah's "nasab" (read this as lineage or ancestors and also read it as who created Allah)." and the Jews asked Muhammad: "If Allah created this creation then who created Allah?" What a disaster: so who created Allah our dear Matthew? For the readers: this is the famous Aristotelian problem and the Jewish rabbis that lived with the Greeks and understood the profound Greek logic were exposing the God of Islam as no match to Greek logic. Oh the polytheists? the idea of monotheism to them was a flawed idea as can be proven by simple Greek logic Oh Neoplatonism? it was beyond Allah and his Rasul but it made it to the Qur'an too and for the readers I will explain it more in the next post So Muhammad must have texted Gabriel: "hey Gabe, help." Now let us turn back to al-Tabari to see Muhammad's response and with Gabriel's help we are told that the so called god of the universe revealed { قُلْ هُوَ اللَّه أَحَد What a disaster Allah is "one of"! and not one! So who are the other gods in Islam? Stay tuned for this disaster. Dear readers: any Muslim that tells you that the word احد means: "One" is a liar or ignorant of the Arabic language. Oh and then we are told أَتَى رَهْط مِنْ الْيَهُود النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ , فَقَالُوا : يَا مُحَمَّد هَذَا اللَّه خَلَقَ الْخَلْق , فَمَنْ خَلَقَهُ ؟ فَغَضِبَ النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حَتَّى اِنْتَقَعَ لَوْنه ; ثُمَّ سَاوَرَهُمْ غَضَبًا لِرَبِّهِ , فَجَاءَهُ جِبْرِيل عَلَيْهِ السَّلَام فَسَكَّنَهُ , وَقَالَ : اِخْفِضْ عَلَيْك جَنَاحك يَا مُحَمَّد , وَجَاءَهُ مِنْ اللَّه جَوَاب مَا سَأَلُوهُ عَنْهُ . قَالَ : يَقُول اللَّه : { قُلْ هُوَ اللَّه أَحَد And here the Jews are asking Muhammad: "if Allah created this creation then who created Allah"? Oh it gets better: then Muhammad got angry! And his color was beet red! Oh and Gabriel comes to the help and tells him to lower his wing read this as cool it and take a chill pill! and then Allah revealed his the Allah is one of! and not one! What a disaster Abul Qasim aka Muhammad was having a hissy fit! And as expected neither the Jews nor the polytheists were satisfied with this poor and bogus answer and the Rabbis knew very well that this is no more than bogus circular reasoning and the Greeks would have rejected such answer so they went back and asked Muhammad more questions But this was beyond Muhammad and his response was that he became angry again فَغَضِبَ النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَشَدّ مِنْ غَضَبه الْأَوَّل , وَسَاوَرَهُمْ غَضَبًا , فَأَتَاهُ جِبْرِيل فَقَالَ لَهُ مِثْل مَقَالَته , وَأَتَاهُ بِجَوَابِ مَا سَأَلُوهُ عَنْهُ So instead of understanding the logical implications of his answer he becomes angry! What a disaster Well the Jews and the polytheists were not happy with the answer and they asked him قَالُوا : صِفْ لَنَا رَبّك كَيْفَ خَلْقه , وَكَيْفَ عَضُده , وَكَيْفَ ذِرَاعه Or and this is interpretation: but how did he (Allah) create it and which limbs did he use? Oh and yes Muhammad got mad again and yes Gabriel came to the help and Allah revealed 39:69 where Allah utters threats but never answer this very profound logical question! Oh the Jews? I'm sure they left realizing that your so called prophet was no match to the Aristotelian logic Oh and polytheists? they must have realized that Muhammad was no prophet and Allah and his Rasul were no match to Greek logic You see our dear Matthew al-tablighee it is your sources that tell us about these disasters so if you do not like it then destroy them and good riddance So much for Islamic monotheism Next? What is really monotheism? Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. 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