As baseless and mistaken as ever!

Submitted by Amin Riaz (United Kingdom), Mar 14, 2012 at 02:54

Missed me?

"So while we are waiting here is another foreign word in the Qur'an a book that claims to be written in pure Arabic! Some one is a liar here"

Really where?

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"Now let us trun to al-Tabari and let us see { كَمَثَلِ الْحِمَار يَحْمِل أَسْفَارًا } كُتُبًا , وَالْكِتَاب بِالنِّبْطِيَّةِ يُسَمَّى سِفْرًا

So he is saying that like a donkey that carries asfara and the book in al-Qibtiyya (read this as Egyptian/Coptic language) is called sifra"

First thing it is the part of the Quran verse that says " like a donkey that carries asfara" and not Tabari saying it as you have presumed.

What Tabari says is the BOOK IS CALLED SIFR BY THE NABATEANS. Once again you prove. You cannot read Arabic. Especially classical.

Also - according to Tabari - the word is Nabatean - Not Egyptian/Coptic.

So you made up the "Egyptian". Else my dear... do point us towards some EVIDENCE.

As per usual no sign of any. and when you do attempt to back your fiction. Remember what happens?

I am still laughing at the BISHAM forgery.

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"Well al-Tabari is saying that the word sifr is a loan word from Coptic right our dear Amin? this means that the Qur'an has indeed foreign words so who is the liar here?"

Nope. Tabari clearly says the word is Nabatean. and not Coptic. And Quran has no foreign words

Arabic is a language of Aramaic origins - it shares common roots with other semitic languages. All words of Quran are Arabic.

Take Alcohol - its an English word. But of Arabic origin. Naturally Arabic has words from other languages - as do every single language on earth. Even "language-isolates". But all words were long Arabised before Quran.

As usual you are the liar here proven! Why else the twist on Tabari? Oh forgot you cannot actually read Arabic. I thinks it been over a year now that I proved that.

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"But wait let us trun to Crum's Coptic dictionary and on page 770B we find the Coptic/Egyptian word for book and it is ϫωωμε or goome which is not even close to sifr. So it seems that al-Tabari and his source had no clue"

Jeez! ...

" كُتُبًا , وَالْكِتَاب بِالنِّبْطِيَّةِ يُسَمَّى سِفْرًا"

This reads as "The book is called Sifr near the Nabateans"

So Tabari never even claimed it was coptic/ egyptian. That was a clear fabrication from you. Nothing new there then.

Is this going to the next "Istilaam" - oh the countless posts. that it doesn't mean "receipt" - then you given me a link to almaany.com. According to which. it did mean receipt. What can I say.

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"It is very clear that it is a loan word from Syriac ܣܦܪ or spar (for the readers Syriac P is read in Arabic as F) et voila we know the etymology of the Quranic asfara

So how did the word sifr get in the Qur'an? any guesses our dear Amin?"

Way! What a surprise! As do your other claims. I guess you have been at Christoph too. How did I see that one coming?

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"(for the readers Syriac P is read in Arabic as F) "

No it isn't - mostly it is read as B - Bebsi - Bakistan

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"As for Christian Arabic be it is Syria or Egypt: here is what I believe: the word sifr got into Christian Arabic from Syriac spar as the likes of the book of Exodus was not a sura or chapter but it was a book or spar"

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha HaHa!

But this is circular. Arabic Bible is written in Arabic. is using Arabic. So how does that prove that the word is of Syriac origin?

Syriac has same Nabatean origins as Arabic. One Went this way the other that.

"See what happens when your so called rasul plagiarizes the traditions of far superior civilizations and to add insult to injury the likes of al-Tabair tries to justify the absurd"

If you were able to read what Tabari says - you wouldn't have conjured this rubbish up. But you know. I found that out long.

Also you cannot actually read Syriac either. To the point that - you cannot use a Syriac dictionary like Robert Payne Smith.

I'll deal with rest of the non-sense later.

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