To Syed Rafey:Read 8:41 It says: But enjoy what ye took in war, LAWFUL AND GOOD...

Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), Jul 16, 2007 at 00:53

Syed, you wrote to dhimmi (in inverted commas):

"---Allah demands that you give in charity of 1/5th of that you find from ONLY in battle field (i.e. things that belong to those who come to fight you) and not from the homes of anyone.

Stealing is in general a crime in the eyes of Allah and Holy Propher (May Peace and blessings of Allah on him).---"

Where did you get that information from Syed? It is not there in the Koran. The Koran explicitly says that booty is lawful and good.

8:041 YUSUFALI: And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans....

008.069 YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good:....

When the Muslims captured a fort (say the Banu Nadir's) what they found in the fort would be 'lawful and good' for them as booty and the forts would have contained not just battlefield equipment but women, children, cattle jewelry etc. All these things would have belonged to those who fought the Muslims. And you very well know the Prophet took them as booty and distributed them to his soldiers including the women and children as concubines or slaves. When the Muslims captured a caravan they would have got as loot all that the caravan carried as it was on the battlefield. So yes if what you say is right Islam allows you to steal property that belongs to others if you manage to defeat them in raids or wars.

And when you say 'things that belong to those that come to fight you', you are being artfully disingenuous. Very rarely did anyone come to fight the Muslims. The raids on caravans were all initiated by the Prophet, beginning with Nahla during the holy month of Rejab. The raids on the Banu nadir, the Banu Quraiza, on Khaybar on the Banu Mustaliq were all started by the Prophet.

So, my dear Syed Rafey, why do you say 'those that come to fight you' when you know very well that the aggressors who raided and looted were invariably the Muslims. That was a very underhand way of trying to shift the blame for the violence the Prophet indulged in to the victims. As dhimmi would have said, SHAME!

When you say stealing in GENERAL is a crime it implies there are occasions when it is not. Obviously Allah has given special permission to Muslims by 8:41 and 8:69 to steal from non-believers. Again SHAME!

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