Bite the bullet! Tell the truth..

Submitted by Nura (United States), Feb 13, 2009 at 18:29

Way to pull the extreme example card. There are also Christians and people of other faiths living in those countries who own property. The land does not nor ever will be exclusively Muslim.

By your argument, why is Italy, America, U.K. ect called Christian nations?

All of these nations have a substantial amount of other religions unlike Malaysia, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, ect. Who have overwhelming Muslim populations?

Yes, of course, blame the Jews and the Anglo-Saxon Christians. China was never colonized, and actually, global power has shifted many times of the history of civilization. You're just cherry-picking to play the victim is all. Just remember how Islam spread: through wars and battles started by Mohammed and his followers.

I blame who is blameworthy. Why should the evils of other nations be forgotten or not spoken of, while Muslims are being demonized.

I remember how Islam was spread. It was spread to me and my family through indoctrination. How do you think the community in Medina grew? Through war? Just in case you forgot, every Muslim who fount against pagans were once pagans themselves. They were of the same tribes and families. They converted to Islam willingly and fought for the freedom of their religion. This is how Islam propelled.

Israel did not exist during WWI and WWII and don't blame the Europeans. They just beat everyone else at their own game. The same thing was happening all over the world, the Anglo-Saxons and other Europeans were just better at it. Maybe you should blame your ancestors for not putting up a good enough fight.

In case you forgot, during the British occupation of Palestine, Zionist had already begun there agenda to take over. Zionism is actually older than both wars, the agenda remained the same. Israel was not officially a state until after the 2^nd war, but they had already occupied the land to be able to even call themselves a state.

Europeans were just more bloodthirsty you should say. The "same thing" was not happening all over the world at this time.

You have no idea of who "my" ancestors are. My ancestors were the victims of the American slave trade, another subject and black mark on the civilized Christian world.

I guess Muslims should have been "better", at war and conquering is what you mean. I think that many Jihadists agree with this statement.

Yes, we all know what happened to the Christians in North Africa, Egypt, Syria and the Jewish tribes in Arabia when Islam came about. War and persecution. Guess we're all guilty at some point, huh, Nura?

WE are not guilty of anything but what our own hands have done. What happened to Christians in North Africa? They are still there and in the rest of the Arab world as they HAVE ALWAYS BEEN!! Christians and Jews have never left the holy land. They were never expelled or persecuted! These are blatant lies. Where is the Muslim portrayed holocaust on Christians and Jews? In fact, it was Muslims who protected Arab Christians and Jews from Europeans. The crusaders killed 1000s of Jews before they reached the holy land! Arab Christians were raped and killed by their "brothers" in faith. You will not find the equivalent in Muslim history. There nothing the same about European expansion.

Does that include or exclude Muslim-on-Muslim fights?

So eloquently put. Muslims are forbidden to fight Muslims. I guess the issue is more complicated than that huh?

Is this what you hear in the mosque on Fridays? Most of the West opposed the Iraq War and is offering very little help in Afghanistan.

Until very recently, European public opinion has often been on the side of Palestine. But even they cannot stomach much of Hamas.

I rarely visit the mosque, so no. Any sane nation would have opposed the Iraq war.

HAMAS IS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD!! They won the election democratically. Palestinians have been suffering since it was colonized by Britain. You can't blame that on Hamas. How about blaming it on the siege and 10,000 illegal settlements around Gaza.

The resistance in Afghanistan fought and defeated the Taliban with American and British help. You are referring to the terrorists and their false doctrine of Islam, the same one that you follow, Nura.

You are mixing a civil conflict with the Afgan war. Afganistan was ruled by many warlords before the U.S. arrived.

The Taliban has not been defeated, do you watch the news?

Help? So that's what you call the murder of hundreds of thousands of civilians.

Terrorists have homes too. They don't live in space. There were not terrorist fighting in Afghanistan before the war. Just a government that the West did not like. The West creates resistance.

Yeah, you guys and gals were so innocent. You never once threatened the Catholics, and when the Vatican started to fight back, you got squeamish. The Crusades, perhaps, went too far.

My ancestors were very far from the Vatican during this time. Despite, I don't remember the Islamic empire moving towards Italy.

The reason why the Crusades were waged was because Europeans were killing each other. They decided that the only way to unite was to kill Muslims so they waged the crusades.

Oh sure, they'll be peace, only as long as the Jews live as second-class citizens, right?

They would probably have to pay taxes. Historically, Jews always excelled within Islamic empires. You should look at what is called the Golden age is Spain, where Jews became very wealthy and prosperous under Muslim rule. We all know what happened after, the Catholic, Spanish Inquisition.

Welcome to the reality of the Palestine's. They are not even recognized as citizen of their OWN nation. They are not able to leave and return! No passports, Nothing!! No free movement among their territories! Mothers, sisters, brothers, can't visit each other if one lives in Gaza and the other in the West Bank. There are families who live in the same area who have not seen each other for years because of the blockade. They have no right to eat, drink, or live all the while being murdered and killed by land, air and sea. The holy has never been ruled so cruelly.

In your case it is. You just called bin-laden the resistance. Didn't you know that?

Bin Laden is not Afghani, Palestinian, or Iraqi in case you didn't know. His cause is different that people of occupied lands.

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