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Another victim Arabian imperialism and teaching Arabic to a tabligheeReader comment on item: A Saudi Prince's Threat to the Obama Administration Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 19, 2011 at 06:51 Our dear Noor al-imin who is really a lost tablighee and who lives among kuffar that pay the cost of his health care and welfare check right our dear Noor? >asalamu alaikum, ROTFL Pakistani Arabic it is al-salamu 3alaykum wa rahmatu allahi wa barakatuhu and do us a favor and stick to urdu >brother plato you have read the quran with your heart but the satan has caused misunderstanding, therefore you are retaliating what has been said in the quran. Really? do you know what this means Mr Einstein it means the al-shaytan is more omnipotent than your Allah! You think I should tell your masters the Arabs that you our dear Noor the wannabe Arab is saying that al-Shaytan is more omnipotent than Allah? >to retaliate means you are holding hard feelings as you chose to understand the quran from a different point of view. everything has two sides to it but it is down to your wisdom if allah grants you, for you to make that choice of which point of view you believe as allah has given everyman the chance to understand the quran and choose their religion, so on the day of judgement there is no denying in what you chose. Really? then how about al-qada; wa al-qadr so do you disagree with Allah who pre-plans everything so if I am a kafir then it is all planned by Allah so do you disagree with Allah here our dear Noor the wannabe Arab? I smell a fatwa here >firstly a sentences in the quran can have many different meanings Really? then why does Allah tell us that ina al-Quran kitab mubeen maktub bi 3arabi faseeh? How do you explain that? Oh darn it the Arabic! May be you can ask your stupid Mullah to tell you what it means or may be you can ask one of your Arab masters in London >but if you read bearing in mind the context of it then it can only be understood properly. Oh the "context" topos of tablighees this should be fun So were you there when the book of ignorance was revealed to a certain Arabian warlord and caravan raider? If so then sobhanallah >it is not 100% translatable to any language therefore it is preferred by many scholars to learn the quranic arabic, the language of allah And who says that Allah is not an Arab >and this way there will be no misunderstandings or contradictions. because you read it in english or in the language you understand do you not see that it stills seems hard to understand? sentences seem backwards and some not straightforward and thats due to the effort the translator trying to translate as pure as possible and without misqouting therefore a translated quran always seems some backwards and not straightforward qouting, thats beacause as i said its not 100% translatable but read it in the quranic arabic it is clear as water if you understand quranic arabic. Tablighee Gobbeldygook but I can read Quranic Arabic our dear Noor the wannabe Arab something that you cannot do right our dear Noor whose welfare check is paid by kuffar? >according to [Quran 5:101-102] This verse prohibits the Muslims from asking about things they have no benefit in asking about, because if such matters appear to them it may be harmful to them and it will be difficult for them to hear it, like the person who asked the Prophet : "Where is my father (in the Hereafter)? The Prophet replied: "In Hellfire.", or the person who asked about Hajj: "Is it every year, o Prophet of Allaah?", whereupon the Prophet replied: "No, and if I replied by 'yes', it would become an obligation on you to perform it every year and you will not be able to do so .. Really? Oh the bogus asbab al-nuzul so you tell us our dear Noor the wannabe Arab in surat al-tahreem did Abul Qasim eat some 3asl nahl and had bad breath or was there a Mariyya al-Qibtiyya and this is why his wives had hissy fits? So which one is it as it cannot be both! For the readers: asbab al-nuzul or reasons for revelations were all made up in the form of qissas or stories of fiction that aimed at explaining the Quranic logias and pericopes that did not make any sense As for Q101-102 it is and you must pardon me stupid advice! >"These examples are reported about the reasons for which the verse was revealed, and similar to this are the questions asked just in order to mock the person or to ask rigid questions without any benefit. To conclude, this verse was revealed because of asking about things that have no benefit, or because of asking too much, or asking in order to mock, or test someone or to argue with him only for the sake of argument.As regards asking the scholars about the matters of religion or asking people of experience about beneficial things in this worldly life, then this is not included in the probation of asking. Allaah Knows best. Tablighee gobbeldygook So our dear Noor how come you did not know what asbab al-nuzul are ALL bogus? >so brother plato i can assure you every single verse you have picked for contradictions is your misunderstanding. for instance all misunderstanding of the verses you have picked have been cleared i can also assure you that deep down in your heart you will know islam is the right religion. i am a muslim and i know 100% islam is right and fully correct Really? are you aware that the Qur'an says wa ma arsalna men rasulan ila bilisani qawmihi Do you know what this means? It means that islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only and you ain't no Hijazi Arab so who was al-rasul that was sent to your Hindu ancetsors any guesses? So who was the rasul that was sent to your Hindu ancestors ? >and the quran is 100% perfect too, even when i read some parts of the quran i stop and wonder and think this cant be right but i already know it is right and im not understanding it properly. i do find it hard at that point as usual i always find the true meaning eventually. You means Quranic Arabic is perfect? But how can you judge the language of a book that you cannot read in its primary language Arabic that is ? and how do you explain this mistake in Arabic language grammar and it is ina hadhan (sic) la sahiran What a fadiha (oh do not panic I mean scandal) Allah makes mistakes in Arabic language grammar and let me fix this mistake ina dahhayn la sahiran How come you did not know what our dear Noor the wannabe Arab? >praise be to the lord of the world, the master of all before and after, Really? is that Allah? If so then "then who really created Allah?" Any guesses? Oh and by the way: Allah also spoke to me too and I habe a book for you and if you can believe that he spoke to an Arabian warlod and caravan raider then you must believe me too oh and I have a book for you >the self subsisting and the most high and supeior. allah knows best. brother plato do not give up easy i understand how hard it is for you when things dont sum up, but allah has given us common sense, intelligence and wisdom we must use it in the right way when needed and not in the bad way. you have enough intelligence to project such a long post of misunderstanding surely you did not use it in the right way. How do you know that? Do you have a direct phone line with Allah? and how do you communiace as the guy is an Arab and he does not know any Urdu! >may peace and blessings be upon all brothers and sisters inshaallah.asalamu alaikum. Save your bogus tablighee greetings to yourself and I urge you to leave islam and get a grip on reality
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