Abdullah Ramla: Respect is a two-way street

Submitted by Plato (India), Apr 20, 2009 at 08:51

Abdallah, you write:

>>Plato, you have used your name, Plato, to be our most Holy one.<<

Allah is a sound we make by manipulating the air in our voice box. So is Plato. Why are you so worked up about it?

>>You are not respecting our religion, Muslim.<<

Respect is a two way street. You do not respect someone who does not respect you in return, do you? Would you respect your own father if he kept on abusing you and saw nothing good in you merely because he contributed the sperm to your mother's egg to give you life?

If you do then you are something special. But unbelievers like me are not that special. We tend to give as good as we get. What we get from the Koran is curses and abuse and denigration verse after verse after verse. I will not quote them to you as they are too many and many others and I have quoted them almost ad nauseum. (9:28 for example)

Abdullah, if you can show me your Allah (aka Muhammad) having any good word for infidels or shows even a modicum of respect for our beliefs you are welcome to enlighten me and the other readers of this forum. Do not expect respect for a deity who calls Himself all-powerful, all merciful but does not have the decency to show a little respect to His own creation.

>>If Allah is Plato, I chop your head down with a sharp knife. You will surely survive and not die since Poor-an 3:2 "(mentions that) Plato.

There is no god but He-the living, the self-subsisting, eternal". <

Just as you cannot locate Allah (does Allah have a head?) how are you going to locate Plato if He is god?

>>If Plato has been replaced in Quran 3:2, I could kill Plato with conscientious mind since Plato could never die.<<

Just anyone on this blog could chop of Allah's head with a conscientious mind as Allah cannot die.

Abdullah it is obvious you have not understood the point I was trying to make in my original post. It is simply this: Anyone can write a book which he claims to have received by inspiration from some god or the other without offereing any proof but what the book itself claims. What grounds would you have for believing in such a book?

>>Indeed, I could not find Plato in the Holy Quran, but Pluto in the Universe. You are Pluto and not Plato <<

You must be congratulated on a great discovery.

>> Pluto was recognised by the Scientist in the past as the 9th planet. However, Pluto is no longer treated as the 9th planet but something else currently. Thus, Plato is non-existent creature and that may be this has been transformed from Pluto.<<

So now I am Pluto

>> Pluto is sounded like 'blood dog'. No doubt! Pluto likes to introduce violence to Muslims since he himself is blood dog. or bloody dog. You are not a man but bloody dog.<<

Pluto the planet has now morphed into a bloody dog.

>> You have called our Allah as Plato<<

Shakespeare said a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Allah by any other name should also keep His inherent nature whatever name He goes under.<<

>>I call you bloody dog or blood dog.<<

You called me that once before. I got the message then. Like other Muslim debaters you have also reverted to type. When you paint yourself into a corner you think you can escape without stepping on sticky paint by barking abuse at your opponent.

>>You like violence and that is why you are bloody! ... since you do not respect Allah in the Muslim. ... !<<

I can show you Allah also loves violence. Read this verse:

8:67 PICKTHAL: It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

004.056 YUSUFALI: Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

How much bloodier than me is Allah for wanting the prophet to slaughter his prisoners of war. Allah is also sadistic as He says he will burn off sinners' skins and give them skins again and again so that He can have the pleasure of burning them off for eternity. Imagine the smell of hell with human skins going up in smoke all the time.

Regards

Plato

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