no easy answer

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Feb 23, 2009 at 06:08

jaladhi writes:

"No chance that an "Omartin bin Luther" will ever emerge form any Muslim sect. "
Highly likely - as if he did - he'd be no longer living in this world as soon as he stuck his neck out.

".......When they have been indoctrinated from the age of 5 or 6 not to think for themselves as allah has already done that for them, it last for life time!!! If they start thinking and question allah's will then they will burn in hell as a punishment, another indoctrination. Fear of burning in hell in after life is paramount in Muslim mind, a superstition along with so many others that they can't get rid of, and then there are imamullahs to keep all Muslims under control, just in case they start thinking for themselves. And if that does not deter them, then the dreaded fatwa,as you say, will take care of them."

It all boil downs to big fat zero of a chance for reformation of islam. Besides they all don't think that a "perfect religion" needs any change."

yes - that's a big part of the problem - how can you improve upon imagined perfection?

To be perfectly honest - I would like to think that change IS possible but unfortunately I think that it's going to take an enormous amount of suffering before they get to the point where they throw their hands up in the air and instead of saying 'Allah akbar' - say honestly to themselves 'what the f%^$ am I doing with my life?'

The realist inside me agrees with every point you made. I know there are some moderate Muslims - the moderation invariably being induced by living or having lived in Western societies and seeing that Infidel lifestyles ain't so bad - and Infidels are actually quite tolerant..

But unfortunately the voices of the numbers of moderates are outweighed by a more vociferous , angrier and more intent number of certifiable lunatics who see the 'moderates' as fraudulent Muslims.. I'd like to offer any of those 'moderates' who are reading at least some hope if I could - but then the question is am I offering a false hope? At least when the situation looks hopeless - you're forced to really look for workable alternatives.

Muslims could do themselves a big favour by shutting down madrassas. These don't bring people mnore peace and harmony - instead they are actually a source of division and are the source where much of violent jihad can be traced back to. Of what use is studying the little green book for 6 or more hours a day when your country is in squalor - on every level?

They could do the world an enormous favour by repealing the tracts in the Koran that delude them into thinking they have THE supreme revelation of truth - and that non-Muslims are either second class citizens - or potential new converts to their cult.

We know this is not going to happen, Unfortunately the world will limp on - until the next large scale terrorist outrage - and so on - until we accept this as a normal part of life.

There's an old saying 'if the path becomes too rocky - just get off the path'

This is another option for 'moderate' Muslims. And one that is being taken up in increasingly large numbers . The more intelligent amongst them should be able to do a cost/benefit analysis and reach the conclusion that it just isn't profitable being a Muslim. They note that adherents of other religions do not experience the same plethora of problems nor have to adhere to superstitions. They can tell 'Allah' they're very sorry - and hope he'll understand - but they'd like to exercise their newfound freedom to try something new.

If the most devoted adherents can scream 'Allah akbar' as they blow up buildings, cars, trucks, pedestrians,schools then surely the 'moderates' can rationalise taking a new direction by saying to themselves "it is 'Allah's ' will that they should try something else" - that should resolve any sense of guilt.

What a world!

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