Submitted by Plato (India), Apr 25, 2009 at 10:36
Nozzi, you write,
>>My final words to Plato:
To my observance from muslims' countries, such as, Middle East, India as well as Indonesia, I've found some constraint in the so-called, holy war, in these countries to prove that even Muslim extremists' countries do not have full support on the so-called, Holy War.<<
You are looking in the wrong places. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Pakistan conduct holy wars in non-Muslim countries. India, Lebanon, Israel, Philippines, Thailand etc.
>>This proves that the so-called, holy war, is most of the times directed from residences of Muslim countries. This is obvious in Indonesia riots in which Muslims fight against non-Muslims to destroy shops and etc <<
Surprise! Surprise! You admit that holy wars are orchestrated from Muslim countries against non-Muslims. I wonder why you said before that Muslim extremist countries do not support holy war.
>>The so-called, holy war, has been found most of the time between Muslim countries and other non-Muslim countries, ………. For instance, if violence between muslims and non-muslims is legalised by their Government, horror will certainly fill the country since you could see muslim extremist carries destructive weapon, such as, riffle, to look ayound in his/her country so as to locate non-muslims for their destruction.<<
I have no clue what you are trying to convey so I will not comment.
>>We, moderate Mulsims, certainly would not welcome violence, vandalism and etc. since this is against what the Holy Quran that mentions what Allah is. Allah is the Most Merciful.<<
Holy Koran does mention Allah's mercifulness. But Allah by His actions prove that He is merciless.
004.056 YUSUFALI: Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.
008.067 YUSUFALI: It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. Ye look for the temporal goods of this world; but Allah looketh to the Hereafter: And Allah is Exalted in might, Wise.
004.089 YUSUFALI: They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks
>>We have to be merciful to non-Muslims to convince non-Muslim that Muslim is the right religion and that the only way to escape from punishment from Allah on the Last Judgment Day is to repent to become Muslims.<<
Your mecifulness is false as your intention is to entice non-Muslims to embrace Islam. It is you who should repent for such duplicitous conduct.
>>Again we, too, have to set good morales to non-Muslims so that in time to come, they would repent and turn to Allah then.<<
In India we see old Arabs coming and marrying teen age girls and divorcing by telephone as soon as they return to their country. In Saudi Arabia they have misyar marriages and in Iran Muta weddings. We see Muslim men marry many wives. Muslims set a very poor example of morality.
>>Conclusion: We, moderate Muslims, want to be merciful since Allah is merciful. We want to be merciful since we want more non-Muslims to be saved from the last judgment day.<<
Be honest Nozzi, you want Muslims to pretend to be merciful so that so that they will think Allah is merciful to dishonestly attract them to Islam and gain credit with Allah for bringing Him more believers.
>>We want to be merciful and that is why we want to reach out to many non-muslims so that they could be saved. We want to be merciful since we like to present good image to non-muslims so that they would feel that muslims are good that they would repent to turn back to Allah.<<
You want to be merciful for the wrong reasons. You want to hide the true nature of your religion to attract more believers. How odious.
>>Lastly we want to be merciful since Allah is the most merciful.<<
Nozzi, why can't you be merciful simply because it is a great human quality?
Regards
Plato
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