Submitted by Plato (India), Apr 11, 2009 at 06:03
Nozzi, you wrote:
>>I have submitted an argument somewhere that cleverly uses Quran 2:98 to stir up the emotion from Muslims against non-Muslims. Let's examine the verse below carefully:
Quran 2:98, "Whoever is an enemy of Allah and His angels and apostles, to Gabriel and Michael, - Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject faith".
As other religions, such as, Christians, Buddhist, & etc., are worshipping God and Allah is God himself, they are not against Allah. As they are not against Allah, why should there be the enemies of Allah?<<
Nozzi, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus etc are not the enemies of Allah. It is Allah who is the enemy of all religions who do not believe in Him and Him alone and also as a corollary His last prophet Muhammad.
Allah blasphemes the Christian faith by denying the divinity of Jesus. Buddhists are atheistic so naturally Allah considers them His enemies. The Buddhists have no problem with Allah as long as He does not interfere with their belief. The Hindus joyously worship hundreds of idols just like the Meccans of old. This makes Allah furious and an enemy of the Hindus. The Hindus again have no problem with Allah and would happily worship Him too as they believe that all paths lead to God.
Verse 2:98 talks about Allah's enemies. You must remember that Allah is the creator of all that exists, which means He has created His enemies too. Allah cannot possibly claim that He did not know they would become His enemies as He claims foreknowledge of everything. Simple logic makes Allah look ridiculous.
>>Thus, using this verse to stir up Muslims in triggering off trouble against non-Muslims have been found to be misleading and not appropriate.<<
You got it all completely wrong Nozzi. If not this verse Muslims have many other verses to stir up Muslims to slaughter non-Muslims:
002.216 YUSUFALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. [FIGHT EVEN IF YOU DISLIKE IT]
004.074 YUSUFALI: Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value). [If you die you get paradise. If you are victorious you get booty in the form plunder including men, women and children who are made into slaves]
009.029 YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:29 is a COMMANDMENT to Muslims to fight those who do not believe in Allah even if they are people of the Book (Jews, Christians, Sabians)
Submitted by MOHAMAD NOZZI (Singapore), Apr 9, 2009 at 00:08
>>Many Muslim extremist had abused the Holy Quran. They thought they are smart to stir up holy war through their abusing of holy war. They are indeed fool to themselves since Quran 2:44, "Do ye enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (To prac tise it) yourselves, and yet ye study".<<
Has the Koran defined this right conduct? Is taking booty in the form slaves and slave girls right conduct (8:69). Is beating your wife if you suspect she will be disloyal count as right conduct. Does fighting the people of the book until they submit and humble themselves right conduct (9:29)
>> Quran 2:81, "...those who seek gain in evil, and are girt round by their sins, - they are companion of fire". Quran 2:112, "...whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good, - He will get his reward".<<
This verse is speaking about the Jews, who Allah claims has done evil by writing the revelation themselves. This is coming from the mouth of an illiterate man who himself cannot provide any proof that Allah is speaking to him via Gabriel. When asked for proof he never gives any except to say the Koran is the proof.
This is typical of the Koran(i.e Muhammad's) talking in circles. Unless you accept, without any proof that Allah is communicating with Muhammad any person with a modicum of intelligence will say that Muhammad was making up the Koran. And he made it up as he went along to suit his own purposes as revealed in Allah wasting many verses to deal with his family and sex life:
033.050 YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
033.051 YUSUFALI: Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts: and Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.
Regards
Plato
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