Submitted by Plato (India), Apr 25, 2009 at 10:54
Nozzi you wrote:
>>You mention that Allah is not existent and you call us to join fighting.<<
I don't call you to fight. Mohammed claiming to speak on behalf of the non-existent Allah calls you to fight in various verses of the book he wrote.
>>However, fighting might not necessarily means that we must be use physical violence. We, educated people, use words to fight and that words are much stronger weapon to merely physical violence.<<
Read the following verses:
009.120 YUSUFALI: It was not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighbourhood, to refuse to follow Allah's Messenger, nor to prefer their own lives to his:….
Does educating people involve sacrificing your life?
008.065 , 86 YUSUFALI: O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.
Is this verse talking about taking going with only twenty believers to educate two hundred?
002.216 YUSUFALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
Is it likely that this verse is telling Muslims that they should not dislike going on campaigns to educate non-Muslims? LOL
002.217 YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members."
This verse is telling you that going on education drives during some months is a grave offense. But a graver offense is non-Muslims trying to prevent you from giving them a good education. ROTFL
>>Now I commence my fight with you plato with words:
I could prove to you Allah really exists by the following statement:
You call yourself Plato by submitting the comments in this web-site. You should ask your mother since I have violence with your mother that your mother gives birth to you and that is why you call yourself Plato in this site. When I had violence with you, your mother ... However, your father is against me. And because of this, you like Muslims to fight.<<
Your statements are getting to be as opaque as the Koran and it needed by best tafsir skills to figure out what you are trying to say. This is what I understand from your long "verse"
You are saying that you had sex (you call it violence, did you rape her?) with my mother and in consequence you are my father, a fact I am trying to hide by calling myself Plato. But naturally my father i.e my mother's husband (you seem to have forgotten that it is impossible to have two fathers till our sciences improve) does not like the situation one bit. For some strange reason this makes me want Muslims to fight among themselve. Is it because of the bad influence of my father or because I realized that you had done the dirty on an honourable Muslim man, who should have really been my father?
>> Bear in mind that I was not nasty to your mother but your mother was willing to let me satisfied.<<
It is good to know that you did not commit any violence on my mother and that she was willing to satisfy you. To cut the story short, I am a bastard.
Nozzi, I have come to expect such attacks on my parent's sexual morals by Muslims. This is one of the weapons they think will destroy their opponents mental balance. If you think telling me my mother enjoyed sex outside marriage and brought me into existence will have me lose my cool you have another think coming.
You fail miserably because it is only for Muslims that illicit sex is the next biggest crime after polytheism.
>>I could prove to you that the above statement is true for the following factors:
a) Your parents must be angry with me after reading this statement. [My parents are dead]
b) You currently fill with angry and want to defend that I am wrong. [You are wrong, and instead of being angry with you I pity you and sympathise with you for what Islam has done to you]
c) You encourage Muslims to fight. [The Koran does a much better job of encouraging Muslims to fight that I am capable of. 9:29, 9:111….
If you could prove that the above statement is wrong, I could prove that Allah really exists. If you could not prove that the above statement is wrong, I will not prove to you that Allah really exist.<<
Your first statement is wrong. As to the second statement unless you can read my mind how can I give any proof?
In the last statement you accuse me of instigating Muslims to fight. Are you aware of any Muslims fighting because of what I write? But if you know your history you would read of the millions of non-Muslims killed by Muslims instigated by the Koran.
>>However, even though I do not provide proof that Allah really exists, Allah really exists.<<
When logic fails, like any typical Muslim, you go back to trying to have your cake and eat it too. What you are saying is that you have no proof for Allah's existence but you couldn't care less, you will swallow any nonsense your mulla told you.
>>It is the same as you mention that the person that send comments and named himself Plato really exists and yet Plato says that he is non-existence.<<
Your attention has wandered again. What are you trying to say?
Regards
Plato
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