Mohamad Nozzi: You believe Allah is merciful. But the Koranic picture is of a jealous and sadistic deity

Submitted by Plato (India), Apr 19, 2009 at 01:01

Nozzi you write:

>>Your teaching and sharing to us as moderate Muslims are certainly not acceptable since we, moderate Muslims fully believe that Allah is the Most Merciful.<<

You are welcome to believe that Allah is most merciful in spite of the evidence clearly available in the Koran.

004.056 YUSUFALI: Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

005.038 YUSUFALI: As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.

>>As Allah is the most Merciful, we, moderate Muslims, believe that Allah wants many non-Muslims to become Muslim…<<

In a previous post you had claimed that Allah demands that unbelievers accept Islam (http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/154000 ). Now you are saying Allah wants MANY unbelievers to become Muslim. In both cases has it not struck that Allah demands and wants is instantly fulfilled?

002.117 YUSUFALI: To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter, He saith to it: "Be," and it is.

This means if there are unbelievers around it is because Allah does not with them to BE!

>>…and that is why many, moderate Muslims try to use their good conducts and even some approach non-Muslims to share the good news about Holy Quran so that many non-Muslims could repent.<<

Moderate Muslims are wasting their time with their Islamically good conduct. I showed in above that Allah just does not wish the non-Muslims to BE Muslims.

>>If Allah does not require non-Muslims to repent, why should the word, repent, be mentioned in the Holy Quran?<<

It can be asked with equal justice if Allah does not require Muslims to kill non-Muslims why does the word kill occur in the Koran (many more times probably) 9:111, 8:67, 4:74, 4:89

>>Instead, Muslim extremists are violent and they do all sorts of vandalism. They slaughter non-Muslims without sharing the good news about Allah from the Holy Quran.<<

Your power of observation about the abominable behaviour ofMuslim (extremists?) are admirable except you miss the point that they are following the orders of the Koran , 9:111 or 9:5 or 9:29.

Allah is the most Merciful and is willing to see more non-Muslims to become Muslims.

>>Allah certainly likes Muslims to approach non-Muslims to share the good news about the Holy Quran and yet Muslim extremists have turned the Holy Quran to be violent.<<

You must be joking, Nozzi. What good news does the Koran contain for unbelievers. Even if they do a good deed Allah the merciful considers it useless:

007.176 YUSUFALI: If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.

>>Muslim extremists never even apporach non-Muslims to share the good news about Allah from the Holy Quran and yet day by day thinking how to wipe off non-Muslims from the earth.<<

Nozzi, Allah has clearly stated that He wants to clean up the world of unbelievers:

003.085 YUSUFALI: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).

009.033 YUSUFALI: It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

Allah shows the Muslims how to cleanse the world of unbelievers in:

009.111 YUSUFALI: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

>>I do not pity for those Muslim extremists since they act against what Allah, the most holy and the most merciful. I only pity those non-Muslims that have died in their hands without anybody showing the right path and telling the truth from the Holy Quran about Allah.<<

You pity these poor non-Muslims who died at the hands of 'extremist' Muslims. That shows your humanity. But what about the Merciful Allah. Will He take pity on them and send them to paradise? Not a chance for they died unbelievers and worshipped partners they set up with Allah:

004.048 YUSUFALI: Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.

004.116 YUSUFALI: Allah forgiveth not (The sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, Hath strayed far, far away (from the right).

These unfortunates will fry forever in Hell because the extremist Muslims dispatched before they had a chance to revert to Islam. And you call Allah the all-merciful!

>>Allah calls us in the Holy Quiran to do good. We indeed should show good deed to share good news about Allah from the Holy Quran to non-Muslims and yet Muslims slaughter non-Muslims without showing mercy.<<

Only the good the Muslims do is accepted by Allah as good. Whatever good the disbeliever did is wasted as Allah said:

042.026 YUSUFALI: And He listens to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, and gives them increase of His Bounty: but for the Unbelievers their is a terrible Penalty.

>>When I mention previously spiritual fight to us, I indeed mean to share the good news about Allah from the Holy Quran to non-Muslims so that they might repent.<<

What exactly is the good news that will make the unbelievers repent?

>>When I convince a non-Muslim to become a Muslim, I find the joy in me that there is one man repents and turn back to Allah. Or in other words, the ispiritual battle has won since I save a man from the last judgment day.<<

Why are you wasting your time doing dawa. Allah tells you in many verses that he misguides people:

010.099 YUSUFALI: If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe!

006.125 YUSUFALI: Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe.

Allah has a very good reason for misguiding people, He want to fill hell with people He has misguided.

32:13YUSUFALI: If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together."

>>From the above explanation as compared to what is mentioned by Plato, certainly Plato is a man that is cruel since he believes that Allah is not the Most Merciful.<<

Pointing out Allah's dishonesty in claiming to be merciful has by your estimation made me cruel.

>> Plato likes killing and does not like sharing the good news to non-Muslims so that they might become one of us.<<

I like killing? I am in good company because so does Allah:

008.067 YUSUFALI: It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. Ye look for the temporal goods of this world; but Allah looketh to the Hereafter: And Allah is Exalted in might, Wise.

>>Doesn't matter! I will persist to be a moderate Muslim so that many non-Muslims can become Muslims through my sharing of Allah from the Holy Quran and from my right conduct.<<

I pointed out above that you are wasting your breath in doing dawa for none can be a believer unless Allah wills it.

>>When both moderate muslims and muslim extremists stand before Allah, do you think who Allah likes the most.<<

Moderate Muslims are people like you who refuse to follow Allah's orders in 9:111, 9:5 and 9:29. So if I were Allah I would certainly reserve choice places for them in hell.

Regards

Plato

---

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".