Nozzi: You are welcome to you point of view. But don't push it on others like the Koran does.

Submitted by Plato (India), Apr 24, 2009 at 21:39

Nozzi, you write:

>>We, moderate Muslims, repect Allah and we would not abuse the name of Allah and yet you have replaced the word, Allah, from the verses that I've quoted you previously by your name, Plato.<<

Allah is just a sound. It is not abuse of God to replace it with Dallah, Pallah, Tallah or Plato. Plato was a great Greek philosopher to whom the Muslim thinkers were greatly indebted.

>>The Holy Quran has mentioned numerous times that Allah is the Most Merciful.<<

Actions speak louder than words. Allah tells His prophet to slaughter his prisoners of war (He did follow this advice when he slaughtered the Banu Quraiza):

8:67 PICKTHAL: It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

What mercy do you find in this verse??

>>We feel that our interpretation of the Holy Quran is correct and that Allah that is merciful certainly demands us to share good news to non-Muslims for their repentance.<<

For what sin should non-Muslims repent?

>>Not only that, we practise good conducts so as to win many non-Muslims to turn to Muslims.<<

Your reason for good conduct is ill-intentioned. You show off your good behaviour to make non-Muslims apostatize. Muslims kill other Muslims who apostatize.

>>I deeply believe my interpretation is correct and the act of all the moderate Muslims and their teaching does not contradict what the Holy Quran is.<<

The killer extremist Muslims also believe their interpretation is the only correct one. The Taliban for instance. They kill for their belief.

>>We, moderate Muslims, in Singapore have been warned of the false teaching of the Holy Quran from Muslim extremists and that is why terrorists come about.<<

Singaporean Muslims may be special since they reject the extremist interpretation. What about the Pakistani and Afghan Muslims under the influence of the Taliban?

>>As we, moderate Muslims, believe our interpretation of the Holy Quran, we don't find why our conduct against those Muslim extremists to be wrong since we have been told from time to time that Allah is the Most merciful.<<

You have only been told that Allah is merciful but the extremists have read the Koran and realize Allah calls for violence against unbelievers.

>>The reason that false teaching has been coming out is due to you'll wrong interpretation of the Holy Quran.<<

What interpretation can you put on 8:67 I have quoted above?

>>We, moderate Muslims, do not find any wrong to condemn those Muslim extremists that turn Muslims to be violent have caused Allah to be ashamed by your bad conducts in killing non-Muslims and have caused Allah's name to be bad.<<

Allah's name is bad because He wants infidels killed as in 9:111 and 9:29

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>>Why do you attack me through words even though we, moderate Muslims, are the believers of Allah?<<

Not me. It is Allah who attacks non-Muslims as beasts, deaf, dumb etc and says He will never forgive them because they associated other gods with Him. I am not attacking you personally but your un-provable belief that Allah is merciful.

>>You have abused Allah's name previously by replacing Allah's name by your name, Plato. Indeed, you are not respecting Allah.<<

It is not abuse to replace one name with another to prove a point. And I refuse to respect anyone who wants helpless prisoners of war slaughtered.

>> Allah is the Most Merciful, we, moderate Muslims, set good conducts so as to divert non-Muslims to Muslims<<

Being of good conduct to 'divert' others from their traditional beliefs is dishonest and a form of taqia.

>>Not only that, we share goods news from the Holy Quran to non-Muslims so as to let them realise the danger to remain unbelievers.<<

Truly the non-Muslims are under extreme threat from Allah as He will burn their skin again and again to slake His thirst for vengeance.

>>We do not find our conduct is against the book of the Holy Quran.<<

Your conduct is in keeping with the teachings of the Koran. It tells you that Islam should prevail over everyone even if they detest it:

009.033 YUSUFALI: It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

>> If our conduct is wrong, please to us why it is wrong to have the intention so that many non-Muslims to become Muslims.<<

The reason it is wrong to have the intention to convert non-Muslims is before your eyes. Muslims are in rebellion everywhere and most of the terrorist activities can be traced back Muslims and from them to their belief in Islam. We do no want more of the violence that belief in Allah seems to instill in His believers.

>>You are indeed terrible and horrible. You are an obstinate man.<<

Believe what you want about me. Just as you are wrong about a merciful Allah so is your assumption about be. But I will not debate you about my nature.

>>You are proud and cannot accept the right teaching of the Holy Quran<<

Yes I am too proud to submit to a self-glorifying Allah who has demonstrated that He is merciless in the Koran.

>>From any angle of your interpretation in the past, we, moderati Muslims,have, sorry to say, found to be erroneous.<<

You so-called moderate Muslims may disagree with my interpretation but the 'extremists' demonstrate again and again that they accept my view point.

>> We have found that you have abused the Holy Quran and have spoilt the image what Allah is.<<

I am flattered by your thinking that I am capable of "spoiling" the image the mighty Allah.

>>You quote a number of verses from the Holy Quran. However, we've found you to know nuts about Allah.<<

So why don't you demonstrate using the Koran, hadith etc why I am nutty?

>>Allah is mentioned in the Holy Quran to the Most Merciful. He certainly likes to see many people to become Muslims.<<

Tirelessly (rather tiresomely) repeating that the Koran says Allah is the most merciful does not make it so, especially since verses like 9:111, 8:67 and 5:33 exist which disproves your belief about His nature. Is this so difficult to understand?

Regards

Plato

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