Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 15, 2009 at 08:40
Our dear Nura wrote
>Every land (57 countries) was attacked and taken by Muslims.Every land? Where are your sources!
Darling: Let me help you: Muslim sources as in the genre of al-Futuh al-islamiyya and al-tarikh (oh the Arabic? you know by now that i do not translate Arabic for wannabe arabs like you) is my source mr ignornat and this is only a partial list, and these sources (that you cannot even read in Arabic) tell us that your masters the Arabs the imperialists tell us that they invaded , and starting in 633CE they invaded Egypt, al-Nuba, the Northern Sudan, and today's Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Mesopotamia, Palestine, today's Libya and Tunisia and al-Jaza'er and Morraco, Spain and Portugal and tried to invade France. They also invaded Sicily, southern Italy and malta and the eastern parts of the Byzantine Empire, Armenia, today's the areas populated by the Kurds in Turkey and Iraq and Iran, Cyprus and today's Jordan.
They also took over the rest of shibh al-jazirra al-3arabiyya where we have today's EAU, al-Kuweet and Oman and Aden Then their minions the slaves (al-mamaleek) and the janissaries invaded India (the home of your Hindu ancestors mr ignorant) and today's Pakiland and Afhganistan and bangaldesh and the Byzantine Empire, So how many countries did the your masters the Arabs invade mr ignorant and this is only a partial list?
But the real question is did Allah get his share of the loot? Oh remember that Allah gets 1/5 of the loot
How come you did not know that ?
>What forced conversions?
Oh let me see: the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic tell us: iqtollo al-mushrikeen right? then at least in the case of al-mushrikeen (your Hindu ancestors included) they have one of two choices either convert to islam or be killed. How come you did not know that? oh and by the way Muslims later on realized that it is better to consider your ancetors as ahl al-kitab too as killing millions (Muslims in India killed millions of Hindus) is a bit messy and what is better than to collect the mafia tax known as al-jizya from your ancestors and send 1/5 of it to Allah
So why did your Hindu ancestors covert to the religion of the Arabs darling? let me guess: they had to or be killed
>You should take a history lesson. There were no forced conversions.
Really? then how about the pagans of Mecca and how about your Hindu ancestors darling?
>The greatest evidence of this is the Jaziya, a tax for Christians and Jews, and the fact that Mecca was taken PEACEFULLY. The most peaceful take over in history and if you have a better example than this, a peaceful takeover of a city, I'd like to know.
Rerally? then how do you explain ayat al-sayf? do you know what it means? it means that the pagans of Mecca were smart enough to reject abul Qasim and his Allah and the only way out of this was ayat al-sayf
>he instigated over 70 wars, robbing, murdering hundreds of thousands of citizens and taking complete control of Saudi Arabia.Let's see where this information came from. It's pathetic how much people like you have to resort to lies. It's actually flattering.
What lies? you can read all this in al-tabari's tarikh and sirat rasul allah in Ibn Hisham's redaction of ibn ishaq's sirat rasul allah and in al-waqidi al-maghazi and these are muslim sources darling and how come you did not know that?...
Muhammad passed away in 632AD. In 638AD, Islam began the war against the world. By 711AD, Muslims had conquered Israel, Egypt, all of North Africa and invaded and conquered Spain. When they attacked >France, they were defeated. Since 711AD, Islam has been at war with the world, why, because the world belongs to Islam, the Qur'an says so. No country chose Islam as a religion for their nation, rather they became Muslims, when they were defeated by Muslims and forced to accept Islam as the only new religion...The Middle East and North Africa is not "The world".
darling: in the late antique period this was the center of the world as people knew it then
> Secondly, There were are no instructions from the Quran or the Sunnah(hadith), for Muslims to conquer the world.
Really? then how about ayat al-jiza and how about ayat al-sayf ?
>The instructions giving to Muhammed (PBUH) to fight against disbelievers were isolated to his enemies in Arabia. I would say that the world has been at war with Islam.
Then why did your mastres the arabs invaded let us say Egypt? were Egyptians enemies of Muhammad the Arabian warlord and caravan raider and child molester?and why did Muslims invade India? were your Hindu ancestors enemies of the Arabs too?
>Lastly, Islam does not need forced conversions. The religion is strong enough to indoctrinate masses of people are we are seeing in present times despite anti-Islamic propaganda. The Quran says" Let there be no compulsion in religion," this statement from Allah is very clear that NO ONE can be forced to become Muslim. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!
Wrong ayat la ikrah was abrogated by ayat al-sayf mr fake and Muhammad the Arabian warlord and caravan raider and child molester tell us in the hadith that he who leaves islam must be killled
But most damaging to your bogus claim is the sabab al-nuzul of the la ikrah aya has nothing to do with universal islamic la ikrah fi al-deen
So you tell us mr ignorant: what was sabab al-nuzul of the la ikrah aya? I will be waiting for your answer with great anticipation
>Nura, instead of focusing on America becoming a nation of Islam, and studying the Qur'an, I would suggest that you study history. Should you do that study, you may understand why Islam is such a... religion.I have taken more history classes than you can count.
Really? where?I thought you told us that you study psychology (remeber your little gem psychopathy?) ! And you think that i forgot? and shame on you
> I actually love history; this is why I focus on it so much in debates. It speaks for itself. The problem is, most people forget history and only focus of the affect instead of the cause of conflict.
gobbeldygook
I have been Muslim 17 years and love Islam more than the 1st day. I doubt that further study would turn me away.
Oh fantasy again. Oh so is this your "small English" for today mr fake?and you tols us before that you have been muslim for 23 years or was it 10 years remember? ...
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