Submitted by Plato (India), May 15, 2009 at 00:12
Nozzi, you write:
>>The above verses from Muslim extremists for keeping unbelievers, women and children, to be the properties of muslims certainly act against Quran 9:28 in which you have highlighted to us. For we have treated the pagans to be unclean, the act of associating with the pagans, such as, women and children, in keeping them to be their properties has indeed violated against Quran 9:28. <<
If what you say is correct then Muhammad was one of the worst offenders as he kept Maria, a Christian slave as a concubine, he also had in his harem Rehana a Jewish woman he acquired after he had the banu Quriaiza massacred.
I have already given you the example of Muhammad's son in law Ali who had sex with a slave girl.
Let me quote the verse again:
004.003 YUSUFALI: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
>>Allah should be strongly against them with their actions due to they did not obey what is listed in Quran 9:28. I indeed agree with you to accuse them.<<
If you have read the Koran you know that Allah is never anything that Muhammad does (he is allowed to kill unbelievers who do not listen to him, he can marry as many women as he wants, he can even marry his own adopted son's wife….) and of course he can keep kaffir women as sex slaves (Maria, Rehana). The Muslim extremists are just following Muhammad's example.
>>We, muslims, do not keep pigs and pork to be our properties not because we have the fear but that Allah abhors.<<
Allah abhors pigs? You must be kidding. Why did Allah create something He abhors? Will even a human with limited intelligence create something he abhors? Allah must love pigs just as he loves dogs, wolves, tigers and humans. Do you disagree?
>>However, we will only be gainst you if you treat our muslim religions to be the same as muslims extremists since we do not act like them. They have violated the Holy Quran. Not only that, Muhammad is supposed to be set as a good example for all muslims to follow and yet muslim extremists act against it.<<
Muhammad set the examples which the extremists follow. You do not follow Muhammad. Muhammad killed, ransomed or made into slaves his captives. He married as many women as he liked. He invaded neighbouring tribes without warning. He broke treaties at will with Allah's consent (Koran 9:1-8).
>>The same is to Hindu. Hinduism forbids his followers to eat beef. However, I ever saw Indian with Hindu religion ate beef in Singapore. Cow is supposed to be the god of Hinduism. What was that so? Could you blame all Hinduism believers to be like that just because a few offenders? Certainly you cannot!<<
In the state of Kerala many Hindus do eat beef. Beef was even served in vedic times. Will you or any one who calls himself Muslim eat pork even though pigs are Allah's own creatures? I have a feeling that Allah loves pigs more than other animals which is why He forbade eating them and to prevent Muslims from eating them He said they are unclean!
Regards
Plato
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